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    thaiboxerfr is offline Associate Member
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    Smile first time user, have a couple questions ...

    Well.. ive been researching for close a year and have decided i would like to try a 6-8 week cycle of dbol \deca .. i have a few questions.. these have been asked before but im hoping to get a few more answers that concur with the answers ive already gotten... this is my first time ever taking steroids ... im not looking to gain ALOT of weight.. but i am looking for some gains, and to get cut, but mainly looking to get stronger and faster.. in a minimal amount of time..im told a good beginner stack to acheive this would be..

    deca - 200-400mg \ week
    dbol - 25-50mg \ day

    i havent had much confirmation on the PCT.. some say its not really needed.. some say to use some noveldex... so id like some input on PCT for this cycle.. and if someone could... tell me what to expect with this cycle... and how to take it.. along the lines of ... if i should take the deca for a certain amount of time before the dbol.. or visa versa... something like that... thanks a lot


    stats:

    Height: 6`4
    Weight: 205
    bf % : 13 .. maybe.. approximate... i have a very lean build...

    no cycle exp. first time user..

    Goals: Stronger and faster... some size is wanted
    Last edited by thaiboxerfr; 04-28-2008 at 10:34 PM. Reason: cuz they told me to!

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    BONE.CRUSHER is offline Banned
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    welcome

    post some stats of urself so its easier for us to help you

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    colts2407 is offline People say I scam... do I?
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    welcome
    and yes post your stats..
    and everybody is going to tell you to add some test to that cycle..

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    A) welcome!
    B) what r ur stats? (age, weight, lifting exp (like current streak, because you said you have lifted on and off, so how long have u been on?), diet, bf %, goals, cycle experience; this info will help everyone be somewhat acquainted w/ you and can then advise)
    C) if this is your first cycle... Most recommend a standard test cycle at roughly 500 mg a week
    D) Be sure to get a PCT down and planned before you start because you dont want to wait untill like a week before your cycle is done and be "oh shit what do i do now? i need a pct"
    F) what are you personal opinions on injections? ED, EOD, E3D, 2X week? - that will help determine what test to use
    G) as for the PCT if you are doing tren , you might want to look into doing more than just nolva, read anthony roberts PCT sticky for that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaiboxerfr View Post
    Well.. ive been researching for close a year and have decided i would like to try a 6-8 week cycle of dbol \deca .. i have a few questions.. these have been asked before but im hoping to get a few more answers that concur with the answers ive already gotten... this is my first time ever taking steroids ... im not looking to gain ALOT of weight.. but i am looking for some gains, and to get cut, but mainly looking to get stronger and faster.. in a minimal amount of time..im told a good beginner stack to acheive this would be..

    deca - 200-400mg \ week
    dbol - 25-50mg \ day

    i havent had much confirmation on the PCT.. some say its not really needed.. some say to use some noveldex... so id like some input on PCT for this cycle.. and if someone could... tell me what to expect with this cycle... and how to take it.. along the lines of ... if i should take the deca for a certain amount of time before the dbol.. or visa versa... something like that... thanks a lot
    first off, stats please

    then once you put those down we can tell you to research more because if you spent more than five minutes reeesearching you've know that dbol and deca is a horrible cycle, test is a beginner cycle, and you don't take nolva with deca as deca is a progestrin and nolva can make progesterone receptors more sensitive,

    but before we tell you to research more, stats please

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