First Cycle

**said53** · 04-29-2008, 05:41 PM

Hi iam 5.10 and 185 pounds 24 years old ..
Guys I need suggestion what should i take Remember iam not looking to Gain alot of water in me iam looking for something that dont store water in me i mean iam looking for Dry muscle = very cut iam not looking to get extremly strong ....
Please what should i take and for how long thank you !!! Remember iam not looking for geting Huge.. ( sorry for spelling )

**Andro9** · 04-29-2008, 05:46 PM

bf%? cycle exp?

**said53** · 04-29-2008, 07:31 PM

iam 14% body fat i did sustanon 250 whit Deace for 6 weaks then i stop becouse i didnt like it cuz it stored alot of water

**said53** · 04-29-2008, 07:34 PM

iam willing to good amount so its not a problem and sorry Big i didnt read the rules

**Big** · 04-29-2008, 07:36 PM

please edit that post, no price discussions.

**whiskey15** · 04-29-2008, 07:40 PM

I would do a low dosage test e or test c cycle for 12 weeks and to keep the waterweight down keep your sodium intake low and sweat a lot while drinking a lot of water.

**said53** · 04-29-2008, 07:45 PM

Whiskey can you please write it down how many dosage and whitch brand should i get please

**Big** · 04-29-2008, 07:50 PM

brand doesn't matter. have you researched beginner cycles? do you have your pct planned?

**whiskey15** · 04-29-2008, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by said53

Whiskey can you please write it down how many dosage and whitch brand should i get please

You should do a little more research to see what fits you best. If I was gonna do a cut cycle I would personally do 200mg every week of either test e or test c (whichever is cheaper) split between 2 injections a week for 12 weeks or so.

**said53** · 04-29-2008, 08:30 PM

should i combine whit out ther steroid ?

**whiskey15** · 04-29-2008, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by said53

should i combine whit out ther steroid?

I think your question is should I combine with any other steroid .... You dont have to. There is nothing wrong with a winny only cycle, the only problem is it takes a while to kick in thats why some people throw in some dbol for the first 4-6weeks but that will add way too much waterweight. Just using the test only you will see great results but you have to be patient.

**Big** · 04-29-2008, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Big

brand doesn't matter. have you researched beginner cycles? do you have your pct planned?

Before you ask more questions, could you answer mine? ^

**Phate** · 04-29-2008, 08:43 PM

the basic beginner's cycle, and yes you would be considered a beginner, is
1-12 test e 500mg/wk

here is some stuff to research so you know what your getting into, after you read these post questions if you still have them, but please read the threads

cycles
Cycles for the Newbie

pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...hlight=PHEENDO
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758

profile on test e
Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Testosterone Enanthate

diet (80% of what you gain from cycle)
UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...
UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...
Appetite For Construction

**said53** · 04-29-2008, 08:48 PM

no i didnt Big

**Phate** · 04-29-2008, 08:56 PM

well since you haven't researched then i basically just gave you the keys to the kingdom, have fun researching

**said53** · 04-29-2008, 09:03 PM

Thank you Phate

**Big** · 04-29-2008, 09:03 PM

do you have a pct planned? wow, this is like pulling teeth...

**said53** · 04-29-2008, 09:13 PM

yes i do
sorry iam lil nooby

**Big** · 04-29-2008, 09:19 PM

pretty please could you tell us what it is?

**Phate** · 04-29-2008, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Big

pretty please could you tell us what it is?

that's what i was about to say^^^, your such a smartass sometimes, it cracks me up lol

**magicstick2003** · 04-29-2008, 09:26 PM

lol i love how now a days people do no research ask every possible question which is already answered by researching and reading the educational stuff. I was an idiot when i started cause i researched proposed a complete cycle all on my own then asked for input. with that said how about you propose a cycle, do some research on AS which would help you out and then get back to us!

magic

ps i love how everyone is worried about water weight. get an AI, keep sodium low, water up and/or do this stuff in the winter when it doesn;t matter!!

**whiskey15** · 04-29-2008, 09:30 PM

I dont think this guys speaks english all that well

**Phate** · 04-29-2008, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by whiskey15

I dont think this guys speaks english all that well

your ones to talk rights nows, lol

**said53** · 04-30-2008, 04:42 PM

So decided to do Testosterone Enanthate 500mg a weak for 12 weaks what shout i Take to recover Nova is good for recovery and for how long ?

**Phate** · 04-30-2008, 08:32 PM

i'd run
1-12 test e 500mg/week shot 2x a week every 3.5 days
1-4 dbol 40mg/day to kickstart the cycle since the test won't reach optimum levels until week five or so, spread the dbol out throughout the day to keep blood levls stable

run phneedo's pct, it's a sticky in the pct section