hello, my mate is a bit embarrased to ask so i'll ask for him incase he does himself harm. he is a diabetic and sometimes suffers from anxiety sometimes. he is wanting to do a cycle of deca, would this be harmful? thanks in advance.
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hello, my mate is a bit embarrased to ask so i'll ask for him incase he does himself harm. he is a diabetic and sometimes suffers from anxiety sometimes. he is wanting to do a cycle of deca, would this be harmful? thanks in advance.
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As far as i know they are not in connection by any way, well aas and dibetes anyway. As for anxiety its more of a personal thing. Some people get more and others have less anxiety on a cycle... I get it really bad durring my PCT...
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i'm a diabetic. Cant help you on the anxiety. But deca will be fine although i wouldnt do deca by itself
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thanks mate.Originally Posted by Schmidty
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thanks mate. what would you recommend? test i imagine
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yea even if its just a low does of test
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would 50mg or 100mg be enough. is bad acne still possible at this dose if o.k. to use?
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why would give advice about this if you dont know? steroids are one of the most common drugs, if not the most common that will elevate blood sugar levels. and as far as anxiety is concerned, anxiety can cause the release of other Catecholamines
such as epinephrine or norepinephrine which in turn can cause elevated blood glucose levels as well. so this should be treated and have him keep an eye on his levels. i would suggest a minimum of three times a day to check his blood sugar to see how he reacts at specific time. do you know if he is type 1 or type 2? basically if he is on insulin it would be more common to be type 1.
Last edited by lex57; 05-02-2008 at 02:48 PM.
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Steroids
The commonest group of medications that may cause a big increase in your blood glucose levels are steroids.
Steroids are generally prescribed to dampen down inflammation. They are an extremely useful group of drugs and they are very effective in what they do. For some situations steroid medication is exactly what you may require. They are often used for people with arthritic conditions, for people with asthma or chest problems and for people with tissue swelling that's causing major problems for them.
Unfortunately, these very useful drugs will also make your blood glucose levels go high. In fact, many people first find out they have diabetes when they have been started on steroids for another reason and their blood glucose levels suddenly become high.
Why do steroids put my blood glucose up?
The way steroids put your blood glucose up is exactly the way stress hormones do. In fact one of the natural stress hormones we all produce is called 'glucocorticosteroid'. This hormone is a steroid.
Steroids cause your blood glucose to go high because they do two things:
They block the action of your insulin where it moves glucose out of your blood stream and into your body cells
They cause your liver to start manufacturing extra glucose to release into your blood. Both these actions cause your blood glucose to rise
Because you are unable to release extra insulin to start moving this extra glucose into your cells and muscles, your blood glucose goes high.
What should I do if I am prescribed steroids?
Firstly, tell the doctor who is prescribing the steroids that you have diabetes and are taking insulin. He or she may decide to try another group of drugs. Or, if they feel you really need the steroids, they will want to make a plan with you as to how to manage your blood glucose levels while you are taking the steroids.
When you start on steroids you should immediately start testing your blood glucose levels frequently (if you are not already doing so). Four or more times a day is ideal. That way you can see what is happening straight away. Visit the glucose meters & diabetes management section of this web site for more information.
It will almost certainly be necessary for you to increase your dose of insulin while you are on the steroids. Some health care professionals recommend that you make an increase to your morning insulin on the day you start the steroids. Others like you to wait until you see what your blood glucose levels are doing once you've started on the steroids.
Work with your diabetes nurse educator or your diabetes specialist to work out how to increase your insulin at this time.
Steroid medication is not usually given long term. You usually go on it for a course until the problem that the steroids are treating has settled down. Unless you are on a very low dose of steroids they won't be stopped straight away. The best way to stop steroid medication is to slowly reduce it over time.
If you have had to increase your insulin during the time you are on steroids you will almost certainly find that you will need to reduce it again as you come off the steroids. Once again, your blood glucose levels will tell you if this needs to happen. They will start to drop as the steroids are tailed off. Work closely with your diabetes nurse educator and/or doctor to get help to reduce your insulin during this time.
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good info lex! My 2 cents is that my close friend is diabetic and has cycled and has noticed that he has to check his glucose levels alot more than when not on cycle, and also needs to get his bloodwork (If ur diabetic u know what this means and involves) I know for my friend his potassium levels go crazy. So my point is if your diabetic u need to be on top of monitoring your health more than ever when on gear.
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i think it is type 1. he is injecting insulin. thanks mate, i appriciate it. i'll print your post out and give it to him.
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you're welcome keep us posted........
Retired VET~ If you dont know... ask me
type 1 and type 2 can both be insulin dependent bro...all depending how glucse is kept under control.
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yup, but as i said in my previous post, if he is on insulin it would be the most likely case that he would be type 1. only about 25 percent of type 2 diabetics will use insulin. so thats why i suggested if he was on insulin he was probably type 1. but again i did say probably......
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