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    Common side effects with anavar?

    Does hair loss occur with usages of around 50mg a day? Also what kind of PCT would someone need to get the testicles functioning properly again?

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    light wallet is the most common side of var.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehr View Post
    Does hair loss occur with usages of around 50mg a day? Also what kind of PCT would someone need to get the testicles functioning properly again?
    Hair loss is common with Var, variate depending on the person, can be lowered dramatically by Finasteride.
    assuming ur doing anavar only.
    a basic 3 weeks PCT with clomid only. starting the very nextday after the last dose. for example: day 1-3 200mg/day
    day 4-7 100mg/day
    day 8-21 50mg/day

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    Quote Originally Posted by lex57 View Post
    light wallet is the most common side of var.
    ROTFLOL

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    oh yeah, it will also reduce ur lipido alot. so keep some cialis on hand.

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    Thanks for the reply smoke.

    Id be taking the var for probly 4 weeks, and yea by itself. So does it CAUSE hairloss or just make it more prononounced than usual (ie natural test. casuses hairloss too, does it not?).
    And finasteride, what is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehr View Post
    Thanks for the reply smoke.

    Id be taking the var for probly 4 weeks, and yea by itself. So does it CAUSE hairloss or just make it more prononounced than usual (ie natural test. casuses hairloss too, does it not?).
    And finasteride, what is that?
    Finasteride is a DHT blocker, DHT causes hair loss, find it on AR.
    Synthetic AAS like Var and Winstrol CAUSE hair loss and accelarate pre-existing.

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    btw, the dose for finasteride to help with hairloss is 1-2mg/day, i'd start with 1mg/day and see how that works for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehr View Post
    Thanks for the reply smoke.

    Id be taking the var for probly 4 weeks, and yea by itself. So does it CAUSE hairloss or just make it more prononounced than usual (ie natural test. casuses hairloss too, does it not?).
    And finasteride, what is that?
    Steroids do not cause hairloss.

    Hairloss is hereditary.

    AAS aggrivate and speed up the hairloss process IF YOU HAVE THE PREDISPOSED GENETICS FOR HAIRLOSS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini View Post
    Steroids do not cause hairloss.

    Hairloss is hereditary.

    AAS aggrivate and speed up the hairloss process IF YOU HAVE THE PREDISPOSED GENETICS FOR HAIRLOSS.
    Synthetic steroids do.

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    libido loss, lethargy, feel like shit <- var alone

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokethedays View Post
    Synthetic steroids do.
    If you give Anabolic Steroids , synthetic endogenously synthesized, to someone who does not posess the gene for MPB, it doesn't matter what dose you give it to him, you can give him 1200 grams per week and he will not experience hairloss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini View Post
    If you give Anabolic Steroids, synthetic endogenously synthesized, to someone who does not posess the gene for MPB, it doesn't matter what dose you give it to him, you can give him 1200 grams per week and he will not experience hairloss.
    i dont have the gene, will you give me 1200 grams please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lex57 View Post
    i dont have the gene, will you give me 1200 grams please?
    lol.

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    I found var to be very mild on the side affects and a great bridge between cycles. I didnt feel that the hairloss was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini View Post
    If you give Anabolic Steroids, synthetic endogenously synthesized, to someone who does not posess the gene for MPB, it doesn't matter what dose you give it to him, you can give him 1200 grams per week and he will not experience hairloss.
    I understand and agree on that but this person is asking a simple question, would anavar make him lose hair?
    now how many males do you know who don't lose hair?
    maybe 90% of men or more lose hair.
    so the answer was a general answer to a general question.
    I don't expect the guy to go get tested for the hair loss genes just to use anavar

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    I'm one of those that don't lose hair. I don't have the genetics for it, both my grandparents and my parents had full heads of hair until they day they died in their old age. I'm currently running Masteron , which has been known as THE most hair-destroying AAS out there and I have a dense full head of hair.

    If he's worried, then he should just use Nizoral when he showers when on-cycle.

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    i did 40 ed for two weeks then 50 ed for 2 weeks then 40 ed for two weeks, didnt get any side effects and got decent results from it

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    im on mast && winny right now, and no hairloss I do however SHED more on winny than mast though dono why maybe dosing. But it dosent get that bad and comes back full after i stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokethedays View Post
    Hair loss is common with Var, variate depending on the person, can be lowered dramatically by Finasteride.
    assuming ur doing anavar only.
    a basic 3 weeks PCT with clomid only. starting the very nextday after the last dose. for example: day 1-3 200mg/day
    day 4-7 100mg/day
    day 8-21 50mg/day
    from my understanding of finasteride, and correct me if i am wrong here, is that it blocks the conversion of testosterone to DHT, but doesnt actually block dht. I have been told that finasteride and dutastride do absolutely zero for hairloss related to DHT based aas or highly androgenic aas, such as trenbolone .

    Dont get me wrong, finasteride will help some, it will keep your natty test and exogenous test from converting to DHT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millionairemurph View Post
    from my understanding of finasteride, and correct me if i am wrong here, is that it blocks the conversion of testosterone to DHT, but doesnt actually block dht. I have been told that finasteride and dutastride do absolutely zero for hairloss related to DHT based aas or highly androgenic aas, such as trenbolone .

    Dont get me wrong, finasteride will help some, it will keep your natty test and exogenous test from converting to DHT.

    Exactlly what I was thinking?? They won't do much for DHT based compunds.

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    Propecia (finasteride) is used to treat male pattern baldness (androgenic alopecia) in men. [It is also used in combination with doxazosin in the treatment of benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH).] Finasteride is an orally active testosterone Type II 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, inhibiting the enzyme that converts testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Topically (on the scalp itself) it is of some effect in minimizing further hair loss. In combination with Nizoral and spironolactone (which smells awful, by the way) it can actually reverse loss moderately.

    Oral use though will reduce DHT levels systemically, which may adversely affect training and sex drive.


    finasteride reduces dht by about 65% in the body by inhibiting the type 2 AR enzyme that's responsible for hairloss

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    Quote Originally Posted by millionairemurph View Post
    from my understanding of finasteride, and correct me if i am wrong here, is that it blocks the conversion of testosterone to DHT, but doesnt actually block dht. I have been told that finasteride and dutastride do absolutely zero for hairloss related to DHT based aas or highly androgenic aas, such as trenbolone .

    Dont get me wrong, finasteride will help some, it will keep your natty test and exogenous test from converting to DHT.
    Exactly. You are 100% correct, finasteride or any 5a-reductase inhibitor won't do a damn thing for AAS that are DHT-based (eg. masteron , primo, anavar , etc.) or are already extremely androgenic but have no conversion to DHT (trenbolone).

    Your best defense if you're worried is to use a topical DHT blocker like Nizoral shampoo, otherwise you're just wasting your money with finasteride or dutasteride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by james21 View Post
    libido loss, lethargy, feel like shit <- var alone
    Amen to all of those. Didn't want to screw only wanted to sleep but couldn't get to sleep. Zero energy. Loved the results but man the lethargy was tough to deal with.

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    If I got sexual side effects from Finasteride, do you think Dutasteride will do the same thing? My dermatologist said Nizoral does nothing to prevent hairloss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phate186 View Post
    Propecia (finasteride) is used to treat male pattern baldness (androgenic alopecia) in men. [It is also used in combination with doxazosin in the treatment of benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH).] Finasteride is an orally active testosterone Type II 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, inhibiting the enzyme that converts testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Topically (on the scalp itself) it is of some effect in minimizing further hair loss. In combination with Nizoral and spironolactone (which smells awful, by the way) it can actually reverse loss moderately.

    Oral use though will reduce DHT levels systemically, which may adversely affect training and sex drive.


    finasteride reduces dht by about 65% in the body by inhibiting the type 2 AR enzyme that's responsible for hairloss
    I think when it says that finasteride lowers Dht systematically, it means in those who arent injecting DHTs.

    I dont know if id waste the money to use finasteride topically, those pills are small man.

    I use nizoral, mpb prone or not, i figure $15 every 5-6 month cant hurt me.

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    your right, i was just putting up some info in case one of the people on the thread wanted to read up on fina

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    I'm surprised no one mentioned it, but I think everyone would agree that it is highly recommend you run Var for more than 4 weeks, 6 weeks minimum

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoney_creek View Post
    i did 40 ed for two weeks then 50 ed for 2 weeks then 40 ed for two weeks, didnt get any side effects and got decent results from it
    People claim var has tons of sides. It is probably the safest roid out there. The hair loss reports are from people taking 80mg + of this stuff. Good results can be had with 40mg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini View Post
    Exactly. You are 100% correct, finasteride or any 5a-reductase inhibitor won't do a damn thing for AAS that are DHT-based (eg. masteron , primo, anavar , etc.) or are already extremely androgenic but have no conversion to DHT (trenbolone ).

    Your best defense if you're worried is to use a topical DHT blocker like Nizoral shampoo, otherwise you're just wasting your money with finasteride or dutasteride.
    It's not a waste of money as you are blocking your normal DHT in the blood stream and at the scalp while on propecia. It won't do anything for the oral DHT roids, but it will help with the total amount of DHT in the body.
    Last edited by fedorrulz; 05-03-2008 at 12:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by respek View Post
    If I got sexual side effects from Finasteride, do you think Dutasteride will do the same thing? My dermatologist said Nizoral does nothing to prevent hairloss.
    Dusta is far worse with sexual side effects and gyno. It is much stronger than propecia as it can block up to 90% of DHT (propecia is around 65%). Dusta is better for hairloss though but the trials on it were canceled do to too many sexual side effects. Propecia killed my libido, I can't imagine what duta would be like.

    Nizoral was used by all the men in the 5 year propecia FDA trials. It works by reducing inflammation on the scalp and reducing DHT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini View Post
    Exactly. You are 100% correct, finasteride or any 5a-reductase inhibitor won't do a damn thing for AAS that are DHT-based (eg. masteron , primo, anavar , etc.) or are already extremely androgenic but have no conversion to DHT (trenbolone ).

    Your best defense if you're worried is to use a topical DHT blocker like Nizoral shampoo, otherwise you're just wasting your money with finasteride or dutasteride.
    Funny you mention Nizoral, i have that in my shower right now (for dandruff, i live in a super dry climate). I thought id ask because the profile doesnt have much to say about hairloss, just that var is a mild steroid . Ok so i use nizoral while im taking it. What about my testes shrinking, how will i combat that, PCT? Oh and for libido, i have no idea why really but my libido is pretty shitty to begin with, not sure why. So i dont mind losing that. But i dont want to be eating less, i already dont eat very much from medication i take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehr View Post
    Funny you mention Nizoral, i have that in my shower right now (for dandruff, i live in a super dry climate). I thought id ask because the profile doesnt have much to say about hairloss, just that var is a mild steroid. Ok so i use nizoral while im taking it. What about my testes shrinking, how will i combat that, PCT? Oh and for libido, i have no idea why really but my libido is pretty shitty to begin with, not sure why. So i dont mind losing that. But i dont want to be eating less, i already dont eat very much from medication i take.
    var will not make your testis shrink, even at high doses. It can impact your test production but it won't shut you down like deca or test.

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    I have not personally tried anavar but I know people who have and they said that they had NO side effects. I was going to take Anavar this summer but the problem is that it is to expensive. The amount of $ I would pay for an Anavar cycle is not worth it.

    In terms of hairloss there are certain steroids that are known for being hard on your hairline e.g., tren , anadrol etc. Genetics plays a huge role, I know a guy who juices almost all year long and he has a full head of hair. For people like myself who are prone to male pattern hairloss, we must use protection (propecia, nizoral etc) and/or be careful when selecting the steroid .

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    Quote Originally Posted by respek View Post
    I have not personally tried anavar but I know people who have and they said that they had NO side effects. I was going to take Anavar this summer but the problem is that it is to expensive. The amount of $ I would pay for an Anavar cycle is not worth it.

    In terms of hairloss there are certain steroids that are known for being hard on your hairline e.g., tren, anadrol etc. Genetics plays a huge role, I know a guy who juices almost all year long and he has a full head of hair. For people like myself who are prone to male pattern hairloss, we must use protection (propecia, nizoral etc) and/or be careful when selecting the steroid.

    I am in the same boat and only use tbol and var. I recommend the legal (PH)TBOL , Halotest 25 as well.

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    Im currently on my 3rd week of var 40mg/day. I added the var for the last 6wks of my Sust 500mg/cycle. I had zero sides up until about a week ago and believe its related to the var. Im very lethargic now but I also have trouble sleeping at night. Its a very light sleep which I wake about 10x a night and upon waking am covered in sweat. I felt fantastic up till the point of introducing the var, now not so much.

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    var is know for making people feel like cramp. It gave me a little acne too.

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    What I dont understand and cannot find ANYWHERE on the internet is an explaination of why Var is supposedly so mild on hair if it is a DHT derivative?!!

    I cant trust the hype that it has no affect on hair line or is at least one of the most mild on the hair line , when science says it should be one of the worst?

    Thanks...

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    I personally did not experience that many side effects. However, I did get pumps even on a low dose. It really didn't kill my sex drive that much.

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    Can anyone shed some light on my input above? ...

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