newb on my 1st cycle

**seven8nine** · 05-03-2008, 12:28 PM

Hey guys,

I'm 34 6" 260lbs big, heavy, not ripped.
I'm 8 weeks into my 1st cycle.

I am currently using (edited names but was hoping for validation there too)
-1cc test 250 /week
-1cc deca 200 /week

I am going to start adding

-estanozolol 50
-gonaforte

as I understand it the estanozolol is a form of winstrol ? and this is more of a cutting agent. I have read that this is to be used daily, but I was thinking every other day? Is it a waste to NOT do it daily? also is this better utilized by injecting into abdomen fat vs the gluts?

and the gonaforte is a HGC to bring "the boys" back. I am not sure how much of this to use, and at what intervals. I have read that I mix the water solution into the bottle w/the powder. It looks as though I will need to keep it refrigerated? Is that correct?

Also can you reccomend a schedule on how to ramp into these additions, and also the frequency they should be used.

Sorry to sound like a newb I read some of the sticky's and did find some of the specific products I have, but didn't see a case with this exact mix.

ALSO.. in you opinions was this a good 1st cycle?

**Phate** · 05-03-2008, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by seven8nine

Hey guys,

I'm 34 6" 260lbs big, heavy, not ripped.
I'm 8 weeks into my 1st cycle.
what's your bf%

I am currently using
-1cc week
-1cc week

I am going to start adding

-estanozolol 50
-gonaforte

as I understand it the estanozolol is a form of winstrol ? and this is more of a cutting agent. I have read that this is to be used daily, but I was thinking every other day? Is it a waste to NOT do it daily? also is this better utilized by injecting into abdomen fat vs the gluts? inject in abdominal fat, what are you talking about, have you been injecting into your fat?

and the gonaforte is a HGC to bring "the boys" back. I am not sure how much of this to use, and at what intervals. I have read that I mix the water solution into the bottle w/the powder. It looks as though I will need to keep it refrigerated? Is that correct?

Also can you reccomend a schedule on how to ramp into these additions, and also the frequency they should be used.

Sorry to sound like a newb I read some of the sticky's and did find some of the specific products I have, but didn't see a case with this exact mix.

ALSO.. in you opinions was this a good 1st cycle?

edit out the ugl names of your products and put test e or test p whichever it is

**seven8nine** · 05-03-2008, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by phate186

edit out the ugl names of your products and put test e or test p whichever it is

Sorry for the ugl names, I was hoping to get validation around the specific varieties.

and no I have been injecting in the buttocks

body fat is probably in the %25 range

**Phate** · 05-03-2008, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by seven8nine

Sorry for the ugl names, I was hoping to get validation around the specific varieties.
that's called a source check and it's against the rules unless you pm someone and are qualified to get one, though even then they are rare
and no I have been injecting in the buttocks

body fat is probably in the %25 range

your body fat is 25% and you did a cycle, do you have a death wish?

**infojluna** · 05-03-2008, 03:42 PM

You should most likely worry more about you're diet. And simple Test E cycle would be best for a first cycle.

**seven8nine** · 05-03-2008, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by infojluna

You should most likely worry more about you're diet. And simple Test E cycle would be best for a first cycle.

well I started w/diet and exercise. I've been in the gym for the last year and a half. I changed my diet significantly before christmas.

I'm in the gym 4-5 days a week. sometimes twice if I break up cardio and lifting

25-45min of cardio (treadmill and eliptical) every day

then lifting kind of a standard oldschool schedule
MON back/bi
WEDchest/tri
FRI shoulders/legs

Diet I have a pretty simple system
5:30am protein shake (muscle milk low carb) before the gym in the AM
9:30am oatmeal(sometimes a plain croissant)
11:30am salad and turkey (%90 of the time occasionally I'll go out w/co-workers)
dinner varies from more salad, roasted chicken, steak, turkey.. I try to stay w/8-12oz meat portions

I try not to eat after 7pm but sometimes work schedule forces it.

**house71** · 05-03-2008, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by seven8nine

Hey guys,

I'm 34 6" 260lbs big, heavy, not ripped.
I'm 8 weeks into my 1st cycle.

I am currently using (edited names but was hoping for validation there too)
-1cc test 250 /week
-1cc deca 200 /week

I am going to start adding

-estanozolol 50
-gonaforte

as I understand it the estanozolol is a form of winstrol ? and this is more of a cutting agent. I have read that this is to be used daily, but I was thinking every other day? Is it a waste to NOT do it daily? also is this better utilized by injecting into abdomen fat vs the gluts?

and the gonaforte is a HGC to bring "the boys" back. I am not sure how much of this to use, and at what intervals. I have read that I mix the water solution into the bottle w/the powder. It looks as though I will need to keep it refrigerated? Is that correct?

Also can you reccomend a schedule on how to ramp into these additions, and also the frequency they should be used.

Sorry to sound like a newb I read some of the sticky's and did find some of the specific products I have, but didn't see a case with this exact mix.

ALSO.. in you opinions was this a good 1st cycle?

"also is this better utilized by injecting into abdomen" Who told you to inject winny into your abdomen... You can not inject there nor would you want to with winny that would hurt. You should up your test to aleast 400mgs a week if its Test e but you did not let us know what kind of test you are using... Different test mean different esters..to get better help you have to give us more info...For a first cycle and any test mixed with winny is good. I cant help with deca because i have no experice with it.

**seven8nine** · 05-03-2008, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by house71

"also is this better utilized by injecting into abdomen" Who told you to inject winny into your abdomen... You can not inject there nor would you want to with winny that would hurt.

those were the instructions/recommendations I got but I'm glad to hear your perspective. I'll ask why they recomended that method.

Originally Posted by house71

You should up your test to aleast 400mgs a week if its Test e but you did not let us know what kind of test you are using... Different test mean different esters..to get better help you have to give us more info...For a first cycle and any test mixed with winny is good. I cant help with deca because i have no experice with it.

I have the specific names, and put them in my 1st post, but phate186 mentioned that it may be against forum rules to mention specific names?

ultra testabolik 250
boldenona 200

I can delete them again, but I was hoping for more specific info based on the products I'm using.