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05-05-2008, 10:07 PM #1New Member
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Need lots of Help with second cycle.
Hows it going guys, I am really anxious into taking my second cycle but am a bit contemplative. I havent touched a cycle in 6 years, so let me begin with my past and present stats
at 19 years old my weight was 137-139 pounds, height of 5'6. I took test cyp and at the end of the cycle I was at 156-158. I ended up getting tons of water retention and been thining more and more as the years passed and my hair line has slightly gone back.Never even took a pct
Right now I am 25 years old weight about 152-154 have leaned out a lot my waist is a 29 (still 5'6 lol) 14 1/2 inch arms cold.
Pretty much to sum things up I want to do a good cycle, slight bulk 165-170 pounds, more lean muscle though, and about 16 inch arms cold.My 2 main worries are, water retention, and loss of hair.I know theres things I can do to prevent these things but honestly dont know where to start, I ve read on fina, dutra, rogaine etc..but how and when do I take these things ? and is there anything else I should look into for this ?
The cycle I was looking into is HGH, Test propecia (ive read it has minimal hair loss side effects) and EQ.I was also recommended deca and dbol with the hgh and test propecia but I heard the dbol has an aggressive hair loss side effect (mainly if its in your family and my dad is bald and so is my brother)One thing I heard about HGH that it can give you carpal tunnel syndrome, would this effect me due to the fact that I type all day at work ? I also had a boxers fracture 4 months ago, should I worry about any of these when taking HGH ?
Also, I dont know what is a good PCT either I ve read for hours and cant seem to come to a conclusion. I apologize about all the questions but I felt this way I can get help through out the forum and not do something I may regret in the future.Any recommendations would greatly be appreciated.Thanks in advance.
Ethan.Last edited by Redzeater; 05-05-2008 at 10:15 PM.
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whats ur bf%?
a good pct read is the stickys... in the pct forum, so check that out....
test propecia? whats that? propecia is a drug so u dont get hair loss but its not test
if you run HGH, and u are wanting to gain mass, you should do 5iu 5/2
as for a test... depends on how u like injections, but u are doin daily w/ hgh so you can do any type of test... if u do susp you will see more results quicker but u have to do that 2x a day for stable blood levels... you are worried about water retention, do test prop ED at liek 100 mg...
check out the diet forum and look at the bulk diet... i bet u can work on ur diet and get some gains before starting any aas....
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05-06-2008, 07:29 AM #3
i read ahead a little and i was like what hes 19 and hasnt been on aas for 6 years ha but now i see your 25, but i would go learn some on pct before you do a cycle and for you since its been so long i think a test e dbol cycle will be good for you. how is your diet?
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05-06-2008, 07:30 AM #4
Test propecia?
Do you mean test prop?
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05-06-2008, 08:12 AM #5Associate Member
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i personally think at 5 foot 6 and 152 pounds, he could grow alot more eating correctly and training heavy, but if your mind is set on doing this..and nothing or noone will impede your decision...
try things like tbol, test prop, eq and some dutasteride along with nizoral. nizoral is an anti-fungal topical solution that removes fungus from the scalp that caused hair loss...dutasteride will block both enzymes (5 alpha, 3 alpha) from converting test to dht.
lotsa luk to u and ur decision.
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05-07-2008, 06:29 PM #6New Member
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Guys thanks a lot for your inputs. I really appreciate it. I really want to take some sort of cycle due to the fact that Ive trained HARD and I reach plateau (size wise) I also think with the right diet and a hard training I can get results but I really want a push to help me break the plateau.
As far as propecia I had a member tell me to take test propecia I guess he ment test and propecia. I want to have everything ready before I pick these things up, meaning the duta, fina, nizoral..rogaine (should I even take the rogaine) I mean I dont know.My thining isnt REALLY bad but definatley noticable and I dont know if I should start taking something that will help my hair before I even begin a cycle.
As far as diet I literally eat nothing but grilled chicken and vegetables all day, I have oatmeal and or egg whites in the moring and a lean steak maybe 2-3 times a week.
as far as my bf% I think its around 14-17 % I dont know havent gotten it check in a while I have a decent physique I just want to have a slight bulk with a lean muscle look, a dry hard look you know. Thanks again guys I feel a few steps closer to having some sort of info. I just want to get the ball rolling, I am really anxious to do this...the right way.
Ethan
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05-07-2008, 06:39 PM #7
More food, how many calories you get a day?
Then once ya put a bit more on natty, a basic cycle of Test E for 12 weeks, maybe with winny towards the end if your wanting a drier look.
Followed of course by a PCT.
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05-10-2008, 04:40 PM #8New Member
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I definatley want to thank you guys for all the info.This site has helped me alot. I think Ive read enough to get an idea as to what to get. Due to the current thinning of my hair I wanted to take something that doesnt effect your hair as much. I also wanted to take the fina or dutra and nizoral shampoo (were do I get these things) or all of em, and do I take them on the cycle and after the cycle ? Should I even go with rogaine after the cycle ? This is what I was thinking for the cycle
test prop
eq or deca (not sure which one, heard taking both is pointless)
as far as pct should I take arimidex while on the cycle or after, or only if I see water retention ? rather not really wait to see it. and should I use clomid after. Anything else I can use or stack anyone can recommend would be greatly appreciated. thanks
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05-10-2008, 10:22 PM #9Member
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