High blood pressure or Gyno?

[TOOBAD]

I have been taking 20mg of nolva and 2.5mg. letro everyday for about 2 weeks and my gyno is almost gone but my blood pressure is through the roof. Sunday it was 147/70 and today it was 152/75. I am assuming it is from the anti estrogens so what should I do? Keep taking both nolva and letro for a couple more weeks or stop taking them all together.

Also, I am near the end of my cycle and I needed some more time on the test while taking the letro (for sex drive). In order to do that I had to go from 500mg test e ew to 250mg test e ew until the gyno is gone then I will go in to PCT (clomid/nolva). Was this the best choice for me?

Btw, my cycle consisted of test e 500mg ew for 12 weeks (well now more like 15) and 20mg tbol ed for the first 6 weeks. I am 32yo, 170lbs and this is my second cycle.

[bbminded]

when did you start getting the gyno in the cycle? and where you running an AI from the beggining??

[Lemonada8]

why are you taking nolva and letro on cycle? if you needed to get rid of gyno, hyou should have just done letro...
my guess is its from the extra testosterone, and if it cant convert, its all goin str8 as test, and a side effectis a higher blood pressure... what was ur BP before cycle?
your systolic pressure is pretty high, indicating hypertension, but your diastolic presure is lower than norm... i cant remember exactly what that means.... ill try to find it....

[Lemonada8]

http://hyper.ahajournals.org/cgi/con.../5/1129?ck=nck

i just found this... it seems that its from the extra test in ur sytem, and since ur takin nolva and letro, you are blocking most if not all estrogen production/conversion/adheasion.....

[TOOBAD]

That is good info but now what? I was taking both because in C-Bino's gyno thread it states that if you are already taking an AI then continue to do so, just a little difference on the dosage of letro.

The lump behind my nipple is still there, it has just gone down to where you can not see it, I can just feel it. I wasn't taking anything when I started my cycle as far as an anti-estrogen goes. Once I felt the lump I started taking nolva (about my eigth week) then about a week or so after that I started taking the letro.

Should I stop the nolva now? Do I have to taper off of either one of these? It sounds like lowering my dosage of test e to 250/mg ew was probably the right thing to do, agree?

http://hyper.ahajournals.org/cgi/con.../5/1129?ck=nck

i just found this... it seems that its from the extra test in ur sytem, and since ur takin nolva and letro, you are blocking most if not all estrogen production/conversion/adheasion.....

[Lemonada8]

every thread ive seen says to take letro... not both.. .but ill look.....


http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

where does it say to take both nolva and letro to reverse gyno? so yes you should stop nolva... thats messin ya up... should only run letro to reverse gyno...

[TOOBAD]

1. Already using an anti-e aside from letro.
2. Already using letro @ a dose of .25mg or .50mg ED.
3. Not running any estrogen protection.

1.
Day 1: .25mg Letro + anti-e*
Day 2: .50mg Letro
Day 3: 1.0mg Letro
Day 4: 1.5mg Letro
Day 5: 2.0mg Letro
Day 6: 2.5mg Letro **

2.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

3.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

*Regardless of the anti-e you are using it is important to still use it for the first day you begin letro as the letro will not have taken any effect and you by no means want your body to be without any protection when gyno is already prevalent

The way I read it is that you use your AI throughout but I guess aftering reading it again it means just the first day and then discontinue it....I will discontinue the nolvadex immediately!