!! NOLVADEX Killed my Cycle !!

[mistergodbody]

im gyno prone....and i finally started using nolvadex during cycles..my cycle was 8 weeks long.....i was taking 10mgs of nolv ED....test prop 50 ED...winny 50 mgs for 6 weeks...and proviron throughout cycle....and for the first time my muscles were flat during the cycle....no crazy pumps like in the past...it was horrible.....I know nolva kills IGF-1 but I didnt know it was going to impact my gains that much! MY question is...should i take arimidex during the cycle INSTEAD of nolvadex because arimidex does not kill IGF-1 ??? what do you guys think??

[Emilio_Rebenga]

dude..consider yourself lucky, blessed, fortuniate, and everything else that thats all nolva did to you...nolva is a PCT. POST CYCLE! Not Pre Cycle, Not During Cycle. POST!

adding nolva if you are gyno prone and during a cycle is a remedy for 34DD's

[gixxerboy1]

10mg's of nolva isnt going to make that big of difference. I would wonder about the quality of your other stuff

[NATE0406]

10mg's of nolva isnt going to make that big of difference. I would wonder about the quality of your other stuff

x2... but for the future get yourself an AI to run when you start to see signs of gyno.

[solid90062]

Arimidex is fine to take during the cycle. I would only take the nolvadex if you start getting signs of gyno coming on.

[gixxerboy1]

dude..consider yourself lucky, blessed, fortuniate, and everything else that thats all nolva did to you...nolva is a PCT. POST CYCLE! Not Pre Cycle, Not During Cycle. POST!

adding nolva if you are gyno prone and during a cycle is a remedy for 34DD's

not from a test cycle. Yes if its a 19nor

[Elias]

i was reading a lot lately on the site and there is a post about gyno issues that u should use letro to treat it or prevent it or whatever ....
does letro kills your igf-1??

[perfectbeast2001]

Any anti Es should only be used if absolutely needed. They should be discontinued as soon as problems desist. Dosage of AS should be adjusted/lowered to prevent further sides.

[PT]

i used to run nolva with every cycle and now i run a low armidex dose and i always had great results. im sure i can gain more weight if i didnt take it and let my estrogen levels get higher but i perfer the hard look over the watery look. maybe your gear wasnt good.

[mistergodbody]

I can't imagine my gear being junk because its from a reputable guy....the A'shop' guy ..haha! Am i allowed to say that???

[mistergodbody]

so even if i switch to arimidex....you're saying i should then take arimidex only when side effects arise? or should i take .25mgs of arimidex throughout the cycle???

[mistergodbody]

I know i'm basically asking for the best of both worlds....but i'd be happy with a happy medium....I can definitely work with that

[Ashop]

im gyno prone....and i finally started using nolvadex during cycles..my cycle was 8 weeks long.....i was taking 10mgs of nolv ED....test prop 50 ED...winny 50 mgs for 6 weeks...and proviron throughout cycle....and for the first time my muscles were flat during the cycle....no crazy pumps like in the past...it was horrible.....I know nolva kills IGF-1 but I didnt know it was going to impact my gains that much! MY question is...should i take arimidex during the cycle INSTEAD of nolvadex because arimidex does not kill IGF-1 ??? what do you guys think??

I truly doubt 10mg NOLVA would hinder your gains much at all.
perhaps and AI next time is better option

[Emilio_Rebenga]

not from a test cycle. Yes if its a 19nor

ur right...sorry i over looked that...my mistake...i was gettin ready to take this guy to the casino with me..i was thinkin he had some good luck..lol

[fedorrulz]

im gyno prone....and i finally started using nolvadex during cycles..my cycle was 8 weeks long.....i was taking 10mgs of nolv ED....test prop 50 ED...winny 50 mgs for 6 weeks...and proviron throughout cycle....and for the first time my muscles were flat during the cycle....no crazy pumps like in the past...it was horrible.....I know nolva kills IGF-1 but I didnt know it was going to impact my gains that much! MY question is...should i take arimidex during the cycle INSTEAD of nolvadex because arimidex does not kill IGF-1 ??? what do you guys think??

Don't use test if gyno prone.

[Kale]

dude..consider yourself lucky, blessed, fortuniate, and everything else that thats all nolva did to you...nolva is a PCT. POST CYCLE! Not Pre Cycle, Not During Cycle. POST!

adding nolva if you are gyno prone and during a cycle is a remedy for 34DD's

Care to explain to us why Nolvadex is of no use during a cycle ?

[Gears]

I just want to know how much Tamox lowers IFG-1, it would be pretty pointless if it didn`t have a big impact. Numbers really matter here, everyone seems to forget that.

[gangers]

lets see if ive got this right use 6 oxo during cycle and use nolva after cycle.

is that right?????

[Elias]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880
have a look at this...i really thinks its helpful

[roid_rage]

I dont see how 10 mg. nolva would kill your cycle... more likely it was your gear, food or training...

[Kratos]

Total crap, someone sold you fake gear most likely. Estrogen is way over rated. I use letro like every cycle.

[roid_rage]

Total crap, someone sold you fake gear most likely. Estrogen is way over rated. I use letro like every cycle.

hell yeah... I rather 100.000 times lose some gains, than being walking with a couple of tits... **** it...

[Emilio_Rebenga]

Care to explain to us why Nolvadex is of no use during a cycle ?

sure thing Kale...i didnt notice that he wasnt using a 19nor...but letro wiould be one of the best things to take during a cycle in case of gyno imo

[Kratos]

Don't use test if gyno prone.

What? Where do you get this stuff?

[mistergodbody]

LOL the gear isnt fake! its a guy we all know>>>> shop !! I doubt his stuff is fake....

[Atomini]

What? Where do you get this stuff?

Fedorrulz doesn't know what he's talking about in nearly all of his posts.

He's the guy who went and said turinabol raises endogenous testosterone production in the body.

He's also the guy that went and listed a bodybuilder who got blown away from a shotgun blast from his wife as a death from steroids.

[gixxerboy1]

LOL the gear isnt fake! its a guy we all know>>>> ' !! I doubt his stuff is fake....

edit where you got it from. And that really doesnt mean anything

[Kratos]

Fedorrulz doesn't know what he's talking about in nearly all of his posts.

He's the guy who went and said turinabol raises endogenous testosterone production in the body.

He's also the guy that went and listed a bodybuilder who got blown away from a shotgun blast from his wife as a death from steroids.

Yeah, I know, I've read several of his funky posts. When I go skiing sometimes I see a blind skiier with a leash attached to someone who can see, and the guy says ok "left" or "right" or "stop." When he posts it's like attaching two blind people together and putting them on top of the mountain.

[Atomini]

Yeah, I know, I've read several of his funky posts. When I go skiing sometimes I see a blind skiier with a leash attached to someone who can see, and the guy says ok "left" or "right" or "stop." When he posts it's like attaching two blind people together and putting them on top of the mountain.

LMFAO!! The mental picture I got from that is hilarious.

[Amorphic]

Don't use test if gyno prone.

your logic makes no sense to me.

[mkcay7979]

Yeah, I know, I've read several of his funky posts. When I go skiing sometimes I see a blind skiier with a leash attached to someone who can see, and the guy says ok "left" or "right" or "stop." When he posts it's like attaching two blind people together and putting them on top of the mountain.

[southmadejd]

your logic makes no sense to me.

What do you mean Morph....would it make more sense if he put it this way, " Don't use gyno if you are test prone"?

Lol....I have no idea why some people give advice, thank God their are people like you and Kratos on this forum though.

[Amorphic]

What do you mean Morph....would it make more sense if he put it this way, " Don't use gyno if you are test prone"?

Lol....I have no idea why some people give advice, thank God their are people like you and Kratos on this forum though.

[Andro9]

Don't use test if gyno prone.

you shouldnt be allowed to talk.lol. this isnt the first or second or third time ive seen you give horrible advice

[NATE0406]

you shouldnt be allowed to talk.lol. this isnt the first or second or third time ive seen you give horrible advice

lol... you guys are too much...

[Atomini]

you shouldnt be allowed to talk.lol. this isnt the first or second or third time ive seen you give horrible advice

X2... lol.

[mistergodbody]

gixxerboy1....i shouldn't think of 'you know who' as reputable?? i edited it my last post.....he's always come through great...and all of my friend blow up from all his products...but this time around i might have overdone it with the nolva. ONEEEEE thing i left out...i hope you guys dont flip....is that i was also doing adex .25mg EOD ....did i overdo it???

[Kale]

Yeah, I know, I've read several of his funky posts. When I go skiing sometimes I see a blind skiier with a leash attached to someone who can see, and the guy says ok "left" or "right" or "stop." When he posts it's like attaching two blind people together and putting them on top of the mountain.

[im83931]

Don't use test if gyno prone.

You are kidding right???

If not, then thats the worst advice. All cycles should have a test base.

[Hammersmashedface]

Don't use test if gyno prone.

No test = no cycle.