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    Letro or L-dex? ANYBODY?

    This will be by second Cycle with Tren .15 wk cycle. Ill be doing 400mg/wk of Tren E, 600 Test E, for the first 6 wks ill be taking 50mg of d-bol daily and going to finish off with 4 wks of winny. I just wanted a more experienced person to give me there opinion if I should go with .25 of letro daily or .25 of L-dex. In one article I red that letro is encouraged with any nor19. But I know that letro will slow gains as where as L-dex will not effect igf. so anybody have any suggestions?

    PCT includes .25 l-dex +100mg clomid +20mg of nolva for 30 days
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    I am wanting to know this exact question as well. I have Letro. What kind of hindrance will it have on my gains?

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    Try lowering ya test dose and utilize the tren (as obviously its much more powerful)

    Keep ya test dose at a level to preserve physiological function, but not high enough to worry about high level of aromatization.

    High levels of estro will act as a magnifier to the prog/prolactin sides from the tren.. so by keeping the test lower you solve the problem.

    Letro at 0.25mg EOD might me a good choice as letro is known to have an effect on PgR.

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    Shifty said it all........

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    is there a reason not to use arimidex when on tren ? does it not work for pro sides?

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    no, you should use something like arimidex when on tren , but it will not do anything for pro sides.......i use T3 while useing tren to help keep pro sides at a min.....

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    Thanks shifty, appreciate it. ill do that. so 4 or 500mg test should suffice? and to jstraw, ill be taking t3 as well. T3 actually helps with pro sides as well?

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    You can go even lower... 300mg for example.

    T3 can help...

    But you can also look into cabergoline.

    It raises dopamine, which in turn lowers prolactin (prolactin can cause gyno and lactating nipples)

    But as i said about the letro, (this is not as good as using caber, but every little helps) will lower PgR (progesterone receptors) so the progestins (deca ) wont bind and cause so much of the prolactin rise in the first place.

    Of course then the downside of using letro is like you said is how it can lower igf.

    My personal choice would be.....
    Arimidex on hand and use if needed,
    Caber through the cycle,
    Possible T3 support
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    How much and how often do you use the caber. That way I can figure out how much I need to get? .5mg twice a week?
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    0.25 to 0.5mg e3d.

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    Tits man. You've been a lot of help

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