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    My First Time

    I'm 21 years old, and i weight around 70 kg (154 lbs) and really low bf. As must of you guys, i seriously want gains, leans gains to me more precise. So i talk to my Gym trainer and he tells me "ok, i have a good stuff just for your needs, equipoise + winstrol". I said, ok let's go with this. Hearing him talk, i can say he knows his way around and he cares for me, but after going home i started searching for more info, and i find that many ppl on boards and on website, tell that equipoise doesn't give as many results as Deca and its like comparing a poney to a horse . So i would like a second opinion on this matter, i really wish for about 6kg/13lbs more, so should i do as my trainer says or....

    Thanks
    Last edited by Junni; 05-08-2008 at 06:11 PM.

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    eq is nice clean lean gains all day w/ some test you have a good cycle maybe add the winny in later im doing a sust and eq cycle right now 1000mg sust 600mg eq a week and im liking it so far

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    I didn't get past the 21 part. Your too young for juice bro. Wait til your 25. Educate yourself for now.

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    you should see what the pros think thou im new but if you read up on it its all about what you eat how you train and what gear you get... in that order

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    diet and train, u r only 154 lbs man, u got alot to do natural.

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    I hear that a lot, but i really want to try this and see what i can get...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junni View Post
    I hear that a lot, but i really want to try this and see what i can get...
    You'll get more sides. That's what you'll get. Also, steroids are useless for only 1 cycle. You'll lose everything you gained and be terribly dissapointed afterwards. It takes several cycles to get the best results and you my friend are in no way, shape or form, ready for that.

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    How tall are you?

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    Will i really lose everything, even with a proper diet and training? Because what i've been told and read so far, is that i only loose about half or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavinco View Post
    I didn't get past the 21 part. Your too young for juice bro. Wait til your 25. Educate yourself for now.
    Can i get an AMEN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    How tall are you?
    ????

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    i'm about 5.8 in height.

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    your 5'8 and 154 pounds, get some naturaleeee going on, trust me i hate hearing it to and you wanna use it for a quick fix trust me you gotta be real with yourself with this stuff it aint magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupa95 View Post
    Can i get an AMEN!
    Amen. Clap Clap

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    There was a change of plans by my trainer, and here is what i'm going to take:

    Pregnyl 1º Week 3x 1500
    4º - 6º Week 1x 5000
    8º Week 3x 1500

    Dufine (Clomid) (oral) 4º Week 5x 50mg 2x 100 mg
    5º Week 3x 100mg 5 x 50 mg

    Equipoise 2º - 3º & 7º - 8º Week 100 mg
    4º - 6º Weel 200 mg

    Naposim (dianabol) (oral) 2º week 5mg (1 pill)
    3º week 10mg
    4º week 15 mg
    5º week 20 mg
    6º week 15 mg
    7º week 10mg
    8º week 5mg

    He says i will have barely any side effects, i'll get some gains.
    What do you guys think? Imo i think its nice.

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    you need to go natural for the time being then start off with something down the line like 2 years from now do research your going to do what ya want either way but its on you, you do know that juice can stunt growth and stop test production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junni View Post
    There was a change of plans by my trainer, and here is what i'm going to take:

    Pregnyl 1º Week 3x 1500
    4º - 6º Week 1x 5000
    8º Week 3x 1500

    Dufine (Clomid) (oral) 4º Week 5x 50mg 2x 100 mg
    5º Week 3x 100mg 5 x 50 mg

    Equipoise 2º - 3º & 7º - 8º Week 100 mg
    4º - 6º Weel 200 mg

    Naposim (dianabol) (oral) 2º week 5mg (1 pill)
    3º week 10mg
    4º week 15 mg
    5º week 20 mg
    6º week 15 mg
    7º week 10mg
    8º week 5mg

    He says i will have barely any side effects, i'll get some gains.
    What do you guys think? Imo i think its nice.
    Give your trainer a kick in the balls!!
    He's trying to let you hurt yourself.
    This would be a HORRIBLE cycle to do, it has completely no sense.

    Educate yourself how to DIET first, then, after a couple years of correct dieting, take back on steroid research.

    Your trainer is another ass, like many others.

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    Dear God! 5'8 150 pounds?! and your trainer is trying to get you to juice?! Look, go check out the diet forum on here and try to gain some mass naturally first. If you are going to juice, no one here can stop you, but at least research it until you know what you are doing, at least for your own safety.

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    I eat steroids for breakfast lunch and dinner.....and snacks ROIDZ!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cam89 View Post
    I eat steroids for breakfast lunch and dinner.....and snacks ROIDZ!!!!
    Pointless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junni View Post
    There was a change of plans by my trainer, and here is what i'm going to take:

    Pregnyl 1º Week 3x 1500
    4º - 6º Week 1x 5000
    8º Week 3x 1500

    Dufine (Clomid) (oral) 4º Week 5x 50mg 2x 100 mg
    5º Week 3x 100mg 5 x 50 mg

    Equipoise 2º - 3º & 7º - 8º Week 100 mg
    4º - 6º Weel 200 mg

    Naposim (dianabol) (oral) 2º week 5mg (1 pill)
    3º week 10mg
    4º week 15 mg
    5º week 20 mg
    6º week 15 mg
    7º week 10mg
    8º week 5mg

    He says i will have barely any side effects, i'll get some gains.
    What do you guys think? Imo i think its nice.
    This is the stupidest cycle I have ever seen.
    You will get no results....possibly just sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junni View Post
    I'm 21 years old, and i weight around 70 kg (154 lbs) and really low bf. As must of you guys, i seriously want gains, leans gains to me more precise. So i talk to my Gym trainer and he tells me "ok, i have a good stuff just for your needs, equipoise + winstrol". I said, ok let's go with this. Hearing him talk, i can say he knows his way around and he cares for me, but after going home i started searching for more info, and i find that many ppl on boards and on website, tell that equipoise doesn't give as many results as Deca and its like comparing a poney to a horse . So i would like a second opinion on this matter, i really wish for about 6kg/13lbs more, so should i do as my trainer says or....

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    He doesn't care for you he cares about your money. Just take your time and do a little more research. For a first cycle i have to agree with everyone else that what he wants you to do is horrible.

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    I can't back down now, since i already paid and i'm heading towards my second week. The first cycle i suggested was a Deca + winstrol with moderate doses and some nice PCT, but i got conviced otherwise by him. Anyways thanks everyone, i'll just go with it and see what the results are, but by seeing all these comments, i ain't really expecting much. Anyways, i'll be updating with any news on any improvement.
    Last edited by Junni; 05-10-2008 at 01:50 PM.

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    Junni, I think you should really listen to these guys and not do this cycle. Looks pretty crazy to me. Do some research first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junni View Post
    I can't back down now, since i already paid and i'm heading towards my second week. The first cycle i suggested was a Deca + winstrol with moderate doses and some nice PCT, but i got conviced otherwise by him. Anyways thanks everyone, i'll just go with it and see what the results are, but by seeing all these comments, i ain't really expecting much. Anyways, i'll be updating with any news on any improvement.
    Thats a good mindset to have when starting a cycle

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