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    First cycle

    Hello fellas just wanted to say hello, I'm new to this forum and wanted to inter duce my self. I'm 33years old 5'8'' 163lbs and want to start my first cycle. I was wondering if this cycle is a good one for my first one.

    Sustanon 250. 250 a week for the first 3 weeks then 500 a week for the remainder, followed up by clomid. Will this be ok for my first cycle? If so what gains(lbs) strength will i see and what will i lose? Any suggestions are welcome.
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    Welcome.

    Whats ya bf%? and how long you been lifting?

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    Welcome.
    Sust should be injected every other day, at the same amount every week. You don't mention how long your cycle would be, or exactly what your pct would be, so it's hard to critique.

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    Test Beginner cycle info

    here, i'll lay out some stuff for you,
    first thing, you need to get your diet in check, here is some threads on cutting, lean bulking and pure bulking to give you some info, but you need to post your diet for critiqueing, your wasting your money otherwise

    Diet

    UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...
    UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...
    Appetite For Construction
    http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/calories/calories.html

    only when you have your diet down should you think about cycling, a beginner cycle should look like this

    1-12 test e 500mg/week
    1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)

    take your test injections 3.5 days apart, like monday morning and thursday evening

    split your dbol up throughout the day, this will keep your blood levels stable, which means less sides and more gains

    if you take the dbol, supplement with liv52 to help you liver cope with breaking down the dbol

    btw, here are the profiles on the AS you will be using so read them and get to know the stuff your putting in your body

    Test Enth
    Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Testosterone Enanthate

    Dianabol
    Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)

    Next is your pct, which should begin two weeks after your last test injection and should be a phneedo's pct, whats that you ask? here it is

    Pheendo's PCT
    Pheedno's PCT

    while your at it read this one as well for future cycles

    Anthony Roberts PCT
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758


    Now for some other important stuff, you need to have some arimidex on hand in case you start getting water retention or gyno, so get some, in fact, read this thread 3x before you start your cycle as it will tell you....

    All You Need To Know About Gyno

    All you need to know about GYNO.

    that should get you read for your cycle, best of luck

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    Phate has pretty much covered everything you need to read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
    Phate has pretty much covered everything you need to read!
    thanks shifty, btw, congrats on the monitor title

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    what do you mean by
    "1-12" test e 500mg/week
    "1-4" dbol 40mg/day

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    thats the weeks you run it, so in this case i'm saying run the test e from week 1 through week 12 and the dbol from week 1 through week 4

    if i had
    1-10 test e
    5-10 winstrol

    then i would mean run the test e from week 1 through week 10 and the winstrol from week 5 through week 10

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    great!thats what i figured. I'm going to read all the info you posted up and make sure I'm ready. I did some research but i want to dial in on a few things before i waste my money. I know a few people how just bought some thinking he was going to get big just by lifting. I know one thing for sure that you diet needs to be in order. Mine is getting there i want to stick with the bulking diet I'm on for at least 6 months. Also what you be the gains i would see and how much and how much would i lose?

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    post your diet and let us critique it a bit

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    lol nvm my comment.....im pretty late

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    Protein: 250-300 g/day
    Carbohydrates: 250-300 g/day
    Fats: 60-70 g/day
    Water Intake: 1.5-2 gallons/day
    Probably going to stay within the 3000-3500 cal range if at all possible.

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    what's your meal breakdown?

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    Meal 1: 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein, 1 cup oatmeal

    Meal 2: meat product of some kind, cottage cheese, green veggies

    Meal 3: Chicken Breast, 1 cup Brown Rice

    Meal 4: Tuna,Veggies

    Workout

    Meal 5: 1 Scoops Whey Protein,soup

    Meal 6: Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, 1 cup Brown Rice

    Meal 7: 2 Scoops of Whey Protein

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    before and after your workout you need carbs

    complex before your workout
    and carbs to protein in ratio 2:1 after your workout, most people use equal parts dextrose and maltodextrin

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    Quote Originally Posted by phate186 View Post
    before and after your workout you need carbs

    complex before your workout
    and carbs to protein in ratio 2:1 after your workout, most people use equal parts dextrose and maltodextrin
    what would be a good product to take that has that>

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    waxy maize starch, or there are several good post-workout shakes and products, go to bodybuilding.com and look around they have alot of stuff

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