Noob to winny need advice

**BoriPecs** · 05-09-2008, 09:54 AM

Hey guys im new to all this and i been working out for a while now im 5'9 240 and i wanna lose some weight and get more muscle definition can i take winny by itself and how much a week should i take.?

**Kale** · 05-09-2008, 09:58 AM

How old are you dude and how long exactly have you been working out ?

**G4R** · 05-09-2008, 10:00 AM

Age?
Height?
Weight?
BF% ?

**kick6** · 05-09-2008, 10:02 AM

I'm guessing at 5'9" 240 you're probably 25%+ body fat. Diet, get down in the mid teens before you even think about steroids . Winny will not cut you up. It helps to harden muscles, but under 4" of blubber you won't ever notice.

**G4R** · 05-09-2008, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by going4ripped

Age?
Height?
Weight?
BF% ?

Shows how much I paid attention to the rest of the question.... I still asked for his height and weight.....

**BoriPecs** · 05-09-2008, 10:52 AM

Im 25 dont know my body fat, been working out steady for the last year, i used to be a lil heavier.

**kick6** · 05-09-2008, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by BoriPecs

Im 25 dont know my body fat, been working out steady for the last year, i used to be a lil heavier.

Doesn't matter if you used to be 400 lbs, you're still too fat for AAS, and if you were stupid enough to use AAS winny alone would be a terrible choice.

**whiskey15** · 05-09-2008, 12:38 PM

Winny will most likely make you gain weight. I did a winny only cycle for 6 weeks and now that I am off it is a lot easier for me to lose weight.

**BoriPecs** · 05-09-2008, 04:36 PM

k thank you for the info. Ill lose more weight then look into to it later maybe when i get to 200-180, cya in a couple of months

**Bulldog1115** · 05-09-2008, 04:37 PM

u NEED TEST WHENEVER RUNNING WINNI!..dont u fuuckin people read?

**BoriPecs** · 05-09-2008, 04:43 PM

yes I did look it up but I just wanted to see what people were going to say, I saw some co worker of mine shoot of str8 up winny and lose a couple of pounds and got more defind but maybe he was taking something else, I just wanna make sure and get bad mouth by you guys before i made a mistake.

**Bulldog1115** · 05-09-2008, 05:11 PM

try this regimen:
Deitrol 400mg/w
cardiotropin 6iu/eod
-ipodex .5mg/d
trainabol 500 mg/w
PCT
OTC fat burner 20 mg/d
whey protein 150mg/d
creatine 5000iu/d

PT · 05-09-2008, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

u NEED TEST WHENEVER RUNNING WINNI!..dont u fuuckin people read?

you dont NEED test when running winny. i usually advise it but i know alot of people that run winny by itself

**Bulldog1115** · 05-09-2008, 05:14 PM

u need a form of test in any cycle! other wise it is a waste!

PT · 05-09-2008, 05:14 PM

winny will not burn your fat or cut you up unless you bf is already low. cutting steroids will help harden you up but ONLY if your bf it low enough. diet and cardio is my only advice for you bro and after you drop some fat you can consider a cycle

PT · 05-09-2008, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

u need a form of test in any cycle! other wise it is a waste!

wow, were did you hear that. i assure you that it is not true.

**Bulldog1115** · 05-09-2008, 05:23 PM

it def is a waste... but this guy running a winni only cycle would be pointless, since winni doesnt burn bf, it would make him fatter{he doesnt need that at all} ... and y dont u guys read what it says on the winni profile!.. no it isnt 100% nessacary to run test with winni but it is a waste not to! Androgen burn bf and build muscle, winni puts striations in ppl with low bf percentages!

**G4R** · 05-10-2008, 03:32 AM

From my experience, a winny only cycle is only going to harden muscles. I only noticed minimal size gains, but mainly muscle hardness. Maybe different for you.

**Bccornut** · 05-10-2008, 03:39 AM

at 5'9 and 240 im guessing his BF is over 35% hell I was at my highest weight at 6' 240 and was 33% BF without proper diet...but hey at least he's waitin to loose the weight before he does anything unlike a lot of people that think its the easy way out..

PT · 05-10-2008, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

it def is a waste... but this guy running a winni only cycle would be pointless, since winni doesnt burn bf, it would make him fatter{he doesnt need that at all} ... and y dont u guys read what it says on the winni profile!.. no it isnt 100% nessacary to run test with winni but it is a waste not to! Androgen burn bf and build muscle, winni puts striations in ppl with low bf percentages!

why dont you do some research and you will find out that people like ben johnson and many others have run winny only cycles and it is not a waste. like i said before, i never run winny alony but i know people who have and it wasnt a waste bro. i never told this person to run winny alone nor would i, all im telling you is that its not a waste and you should do more research before posting false information

PT · 05-10-2008, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

u NEED TEST WHENEVER RUNNING WINNI!..dont u fuuckin people read?

and what is this post? why would you insult everyone like this? were here to help people and post facts.

**G4R** · 05-10-2008, 04:17 AM

While I admit it wasn't the smartest or best cycle, I have run a winny only cycle.... I was at a desirable weight and bf%, fairly defined, and just needed to harden up, I didn't need Test.

**BoriPecs** · 05-11-2008, 07:35 PM

Well guys thank you for posting and telling me about your experiences, I know it wasn't the smartest question but I learned something, and didn't do anything stupid thanks again