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    test alone verses sust + deca

    Will a 12 week cycle of test e alone yield the same results as a cycle of sust + deca ? It's been suggested to me that the net results from both cycles are equivalent.

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    Whats ya age, stats, cycle and lifting experience?

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    yup, need way more input. but no you will get more results stacking deca and sust. that was my first cycle. You are probably fine just using the sust at 375 mg to 500 mg if this is a first cycle. if you really want use 375 sust 300 deca if you know what you are doing in gym and with diet and run 12 weeks instead of 10 if u can. deca takes a long time to kick in. i wouldn't run it less than 12 again

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    26yr, 8 years training, 5'7" 185lbs, bf @ 6-8%. First cycle. The decision has already been made to use sust @ 250mg e3d and deca @ 275mg per week, w/ dbol for the first 4 weeks. But it has been sugggested that the results from that cycle would be similar to that of sust alone.

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    it was suggested that sust+deca will be the same as sust, that's like saying that 2+2=2

    if you are going to run sust inject it eod, like monday, wedsnesday etc. to keep your blood levels stable, though i wouldn't run the deca yet if i was you

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    Quote Originally Posted by phate186 View Post
    if you are going to run sust inject it eod, like monday, wedsnesday etc. to keep your blood levels stable, though i wouldn't run the deca yet if i was you
    I meant to say sust + deca as being equivalent to test alone. Sorry.

    Why not run deca now? Especially if the addition will yield greater output?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseldru View Post
    I meant to say sust + deca as being equivalent to test alone. Sorry.
    No. How would taking two compounds equal out to one (phate186's point)? It wouldn't.

    If its a first cycle stick with just the test for 12 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseldru View Post
    26yr, 8 years training, 5'7" 185lbs, bf @ 6-8%. First cycle. The decision has already been made to use sust @ 250mg e3d and deca @ 275mg per week, w/ dbol for the first 4 weeks. But it has been sugggested that the results from that cycle would be similar to that of sust alone.
    Your not going to make any gains from 275mg deca a week.
    So yes...you'd be better off doing a test only cycle.

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    but 275mg of deca a week will enhance the protien synthesis correct? not saying it will yield badass results, but will have its role in the results

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    In my opinion the first cycle should alway be test enth or cyp for 12 weeks just to see what you can stand(sides and such). If you do too much your first cycle you won't know which steroid is being the one that you hate or love. Also you might want to check out sus flu. I got it everytime I run sus. and trust me bro it will lay you out!

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    Be wise, not hasty! Find out what to expect from test alone before you go adding deca . I would never suggest a multiple estered test for a first cycle, or any cycle. (personal preference)
    Last edited by MasterShake; 05-10-2008 at 04:18 PM.

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    once again, good info given by masterShake!

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