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    Issues using Deca w/ Nolva?

    Guys,

    I've come across a few comments discouraging use of Nolva w/ 19-Nor (Deca )... Is this accurate info- If so, what (where) is the detailed explanation?

    As always- Thanks

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    Due to 19nor's being a Progestin they bind to the PgR (Progesterone Receptor), and nolva being similar to Extrogen binds to the Estrogen receptor and blocks it.

    But..

    By doing that it tricks the body into thinking there's both estrogen and progesterone present so the end result is higher prolactin. Which is a bad thing.

    Using an AI is the preferable choice as it avoids that situation.

    And caber or bromo to lower Prolactin.

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    Cool- Thanks for that
    So, would you recommend use of Nolva after cycle and AI during, or should I avoid Nolva entirely?

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    Nolva after cycle is still fine to use, and still one of the best things to include in any PCT.

    Arimidex is a great AI while on cycle, letro can be a little harsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
    Due to 19nor's being a Progestin they bind to the PgR (Progesterone Receptor), and nolva being similar to Extrogen binds to the Estrogen receptor and blocks it.

    But..

    By doing that it tricks the body into thinking there's both estrogen and progesterone present so the end result is higher prolactin. Which is a bad thing.

    Using an AI is the preferable choice as it avoids that situation.

    And caber or bromo to lower Prolactin.
    That was both informative and elaborate.Very spot on.

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    Got it!- Thanks again Shifty!

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    what is progesterone do? is it something to estrogen as androtestorstron to test.?

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