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    1st cycle in a while

    Hi All,

    First time poster here, I've been reading as much as I can, lots of great info on this board. I'm getting ready to do the first cycle I've done in a while and just want a light one to start off, I've done 3 previous, but it's been like 15 years. Here are my stats:

    38 yo
    225 lbs
    ~20% bf, but dropping.

    I've got the following gear on hand:
    Deca - 250 mg/ml - 10 ml
    Test Cyp - 200 mg/2 ml x 15
    winstrol - 100 tabs x 10 mg
    Winstrol - 50 mg/ml x 10 ml
    Dianabol - 200 tabs x 5 mg
    Nolvadex - 60 tabs x 20 mg

    Here's the cycle I'm thinking of doing with gear on hand:

    wk 1-2 400 mg Test Cyp ew
    wk 3-12 200 mg Test Cyp ew
    wk 1-10 Deca 250 mg ew
    wk 1-5 Dbol 25 mg ed
    wk 1-12 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
    wk 1-12 Liquidex .25 mg ed

    Standard PCT with Clomid/Nolvadex/Liquidex

    I"m looking for moderate size gains, but am more interested in strength at this time. I'd welcome any constructive criticism, both positive and negative.

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    You have done 3 cycles and your 20+ % bf?

    But you need to drop ya BF% by a good 5% as yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
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    You have done 3 cycles and your 20+ % bf?

    But you need to drop ya BF% by a good 5% as yet.
    Ok, so you think I should drop the Deca for this cycle? How does the rest look, front loading with the Test Cyp 400 mg ew and then doing 200 mg Test Cyp ew for the remaining time? That seems a bit low to me, and was the reason I was adding the Deca in, but I trust the judgment of those more experienced than I, so please do give your recommendation. Also, I'm working hard to drop the %bf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
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    You have done 3 cycles and your 20+ % bf?

    But you need to drop ya BF% by a good 5% as yet.
    yes, but those cycles were over 15 years ago....no pct....didn't know better at the time....got the gear from friends, and hadn't done much research....I'm trying to make a better approach this time so I don't lose most of my gains...

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    Well as ya done cycles b4 adding the deca will be fine as you know what to expect sides wise from AAS.

    Id go for..
    Weeks 1-12 Test C 400mg per week.
    Weeks 1-10 Deca 400mg per week.
    Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30mg per day.

    But you need to cut back the BF % before starting a cycle again.
    With the higher BF % your more likely to put on fat and water due to more aromotization enzymes being in the fat.

    The PCT is fine. (at the correct doses obviously)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
    Well as ya done cycles b4 adding the deca will be fine as you know what to expect sides wise from AAS.

    Id go for..
    Weeks 1-12 Test C 400mg per week.
    Weeks 1-10 Deca 400mg per week.
    Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30mg per day.

    But you need to cut back the BF % before starting a cycle again.
    With the higher BF % your more likely to put on fat and water due to more aromotization enzymes being in the fat.

    The PCT is fine. (at the correct doses obviously)

    Ok, cool, noted. Looks like I'll need to get some more Test Cyp on the way...I was hoping I could get away with the smaller dose since it's been so long since I've done any AAS, but it sounds like maybe I need to up the amount. Yeah, that'll give me time to drop a few more %bf too while I'm waiting....up the cardio like hell and lean out the diet a little more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
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    You have done 3 cycles and your 20+ % bf?

    But you need to drop ya BF% by a good 5% as yet.
    what does that have to do with it? He said he's done 3 previous but it's been awhile..?

    I like shiftys proposed cycle but maybe drop the deca to 300. Deca is so much stronger these days then it used to be back in the day of the 50mg amps.
    Goodluck,

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBaraso View Post
    what does that have to do with it? He said he's done 3 previous but it's been awhile..?

    I like shiftys proposed cycle but maybe drop the deca to 300. Deca is so much stronger these days then it used to be back in the day of the 50mg amps.
    Goodluck,
    Sorry my bad.. read it 2 quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
    Sorry my bad.. read it 2 quickly.
    now bend over i'll spank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBaraso View Post
    now bend over i'll spank you
    AGAIN?? By poor bum already looks as red as a strawberry

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    ha ha! hey congrats on the new modding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
    AGAIN?? By poor bum already looks as red as a strawberry
    ok guys, no spanking in my thread, you're going to make me blush.

    Also, thanks for the info, I appreciate it. Now if Lion would get their damn sight back up I can order some of my pct gear...

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    Think if ya get that bf% down you'll really enjoy doing another cycle again.

    Intensive cardio and diet will bring it down quicker than you think.



    Quote Originally Posted by MBaraso View Post
    ha ha! hey congrats on the new modding!
    Cheers fella! Good to see one of the old mods still hangs about here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
    Well as ya done cycles b4 adding the deca will be fine as you know what to expect sides wise from AAS.

    Id go for..
    Weeks 1-12 Test C 400mg per week.
    Weeks 1-10 Deca 400mg per week.
    Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30mg per day.

    But you need to cut back the BF % before starting a cycle again.
    With the higher BF % your more likely to put on fat and water due to more aromotization enzymes being in the fat.

    The PCT is fine. (at the correct doses obviously)
    Needless to speak about the toher aromatization side effects...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckLee View Post
    Needless to speak about the toher aromatization side effects...
    Exactly.

    And pressure on the heart etc.

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    Thanks guys for the suggestions, I appreciate it.

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