For those of you who talk to me on a regular basis know i have totally revamp my cycle. I'm against dbol because of water retention, i hate the idea of water retention so i wanna try and minimize that if at all possible. I've been wanting to do tbol for awhile now and now i'm gonna attempt it again. However I kinda want to stack something with it as well. I admit I don't know everything about AAS but i'm wanting to learn. I've been reading recently and i have primo (Methenolone Enanthate) is looking kinda good. Right now i'm thinking of 60mgs ed of tbol, primo 100mgs a wk, and some good ol HGH along with some ephedra. i'm thinking of starting low with the primo and possbily work my way up. Now based on my research it seems like primo is more of a cutting steroid. From what i read it doesn't really add muscle but rather hardens and lowers water retention. If thats true doesn't really sound like i'll need much ephedra if any. Do you guys think tbol and primo are a good mix? Perhaps 60mgs ed of dbol with 100mgs of primo would be better. Anyway suggestions? I'm looking to add some lean size/gains. I want to stay away from getting big on dbol then shrinking when the water comes off. What you guys think? Thanks everybody has been a big help already.