Thinking about trying this... need advice

**RotorHead** · 05-09-2008, 12:00 AM

Im wanting to try the Mass Stack which im sure everyone on the forum is aware of.

Mass Stack* Includes: 1 D-anabol 25; 1 Deca 200; 1 Tren 75

I am a newbie with this sort of thing so experts please tell me exactly what i need to get to take with this stuff. I am prepared to dedicate myself, actually i already have i just havnt been getting the results i want soon enough!

Stats are 5'10" 165lbs. I have been taking halo effect, at least 100 grams of protein a day, mega men vitamins, lots and lots of liquids (no pop or that sort of thing) for past 4 months or so.

I want to know everything i need to take to start this.

**BIG PAPI 08** · 05-09-2008, 12:02 AM

Bro you can get bigger with a proper diet than that stuff.

**solid90062** · 05-09-2008, 12:04 AM

none of that stuff is any good IMO. How old are you? What is your training experience? What are your goals? And what's your diet like?

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 05-09-2008, 12:19 AM

your diet is very poor , no need for AAS i reason your not growing is your only taking 100grams of protien per day which is very little if your trying to buld muscle.

**RotorHead** · 05-09-2008, 12:26 AM

trust me, my diet is proper, i eat at least 100 grams of protein a day PLUS a 60 gram shake with leaucine and all that. i am almost 21 years old and i hit the gym almost daily, depends on work. i only eat chicken and fish. i hardly eat any sugars and never fast food. im natually skinny i just want to pack on muscle faster.

**whatisthatAAAA** · 05-09-2008, 12:31 AM

what they said 100 grams of protein is not enough. u need to eat a lot more b4 u consider aas

**cam89** · 05-09-2008, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by RotorHead

Im wanting to try the Mass Stack which im sure everyone on the forum is aware of.

Mass Stack* Includes: 1 D-anabol 25; 1 Deca 200; 1 Tren 75

I am a newbie with this sort of thing so experts please tell me exactly what i need to get to take with this stuff. I am prepared to dedicate myself, actually i already have i just havnt been getting the results i want soon enough!

Stats are 5'10" 165lbs. I have been taking halo effect, at least 100 grams of protein a day, mega men vitamins, lots and lots of liquids (no pop or that sort of thing) for past 4 months or so.

I want to know everything i need to take to start this.

LOL, buddy....i feel sorry that you actually got scammed by that site, what you bought aren't steroids . Welcome to the forums. It's sad that these forums are of such quality and have great info, yet...we advertise (they are not scammers, scammers take your money without shipping ) websites......not all but some......

**cam89** · 05-09-2008, 12:40 AM

Rotorhead, never trust sites that sell steroids so openly. They are 99% of the time a scam.

**ChuckLee** · 05-09-2008, 12:44 AM

Leave that crap and opt for a good healthy diet mate

**RotorHead** · 05-09-2008, 12:18 PM

so far i havnt learned a thing lol

**ChuckLee** · 05-09-2008, 12:19 PM

Your diet needs a lot of work, start from here btw:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

**lex57** · 05-09-2008, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by RotorHead

so far i havnt learned a thing lol

yes you did. i think you learned something very important.

**RANA** · 05-09-2008, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by jAcKeD!!!!

your diet is very poor , no need for AAS i reason your not growing is your only taking 100grams of protien per day which is very little if your trying to buld muscle.

^^^agreed^^^ way short on protein...what is your BF%?

**Deen54** · 05-09-2008, 12:30 PM

it's a good thing you got scammed. You're going to screw yourself up playing
with things you don't even know about.

**ChuckLee** · 05-09-2008, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Deen54

it's a good thing you got scammed. You're going to screw yourself up playing
with things you don't even know about.

This was mean...

**RotorHead** · 05-09-2008, 03:21 PM

i already read most of that shit, i would change my diet, thats not a problem.

**RotorHead** · 05-09-2008, 03:22 PM

btw i never bought the stuff yet i was asking first because i WOULDNT **** my life up... PLEASE READ THE RULES

**Big** · 05-09-2008, 03:29 PM

Please don't ask again...

**Phate** · 05-09-2008, 03:35 PM

if your really looking to dedicate yourself then here is some stuff to research, once you've read these most of the questions you would've asked will be answered

Diet

UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...
UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...
Appetite For Construction
http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/calories/calories.html

Workout

A.M. Fat Burn
Back Off and Grow!
10 Commandments To Big Muscle
Various Training Techniques

PCT(i hope you know what that is already, if not it's a must)

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758
Pheedno's PCT

Basics of steroids

The Basics of Steroids

The Basics of Steroids - For the NEWBIES

that'll start you off

**VR4** · 05-09-2008, 04:47 PM

Why dont you try doing some research before making a thread.
Your diet is garbage. I'm sorry, but you need to eat more to grow. and you are too small to start taking aas.

PT · 05-09-2008, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by RotorHead

i already read most of that shit,
. i would change my diet, thats not a problem.

let me start by saying that i eat 100 grams of protein before breakfest.

this board is for educational purposes only and we NEVER discuss sources. maybe you'll be happier on another board because you dont seem to be enjoying yourself here

**RotorHead** · 05-13-2008, 10:11 PM

actually i learned alot, but i learned it with out all the smart ass comments. besides u cant do any of that before u find a source... and no i dont need to change my diet untill i get some... my body is too small to process 100 grams of protein for breakfast lol! ill just poop it out but thx anyways... i guess you just have to know someone or live in canada to get it from your doctor huh?

**Mbuffguy** · 05-14-2008, 07:05 PM

ha ha i eat 100 G protein in my first 2 meals of the day

**Big** · 05-14-2008, 07:06 PM

nice day for fishing...

**RANA** · 05-14-2008, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Big

nice day for fishing...

Sure is, I have had a few fishermen contact me, too bad the fish are not biting

**RotorHead** · 05-15-2008, 12:34 AM

i been doing ALOT of research the last few days... wow thanks guys haha. I think i may have a couple sources. Now i just have to decide what to try first and i definetly dont want to over do it. Any suggestions for what i should take? Maybe just some test and winstrol ? Im looking to get some size and strength first, im already cut. what you guys think and how much?

**RotorHead** · 05-16-2008, 04:24 PM

bump

**RotorHead** · 05-16-2008, 04:33 PM

i jus want something minor and cheap... im going to do everything right, changing my diet and gonna buy some good stuff for PCT. What should i start with guys? id like to gain maybe 15-20 lbs of muscle. 15 viles of 200 mg Deca -Durabolin is************ (don't post prices on our forum) that plus something else and a couple PCT supplements is way over my budget right now...

**Big** · 05-16-2008, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by BIG PAPI 08

Bro you can get bigger with a proper diet than that stuff.

Originally Posted by jAcKeD!!!!

your diet is very poor , no need for AAS i reason your not growing is your only taking 100grams of protien per day which is very little if your trying to buld muscle.

Originally Posted by whatisthatAAAA

what they said 100 grams of protein is not enough. u need to eat a lot more b4 u consider aas

Originally Posted by ChuckLee

Leave that crap and opt for a good healthy diet mate

Originally Posted by ChuckLee

Your diet needs a lot of work, start from here btw:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

Originally Posted by VR4

Why dont you try doing some research before making a thread.
Your diet is garbage. I'm sorry, but you need to eat more to grow. and you are too small to start taking aas.

Originally Posted by pietro75

let me start by saying that i eat 100 grams of protein before breakfest.

this board is for educational purposes only and we NEVER discuss sources. maybe you'll be happier on another board because you dont seem to be enjoying yourself here

Originally Posted by Mbuffguy

ha ha i eat 100 G protein in my first 2 meals of the day

Originally Posted by RotorHead

i been doing ALOT of research the last few days... wow thanks guys haha. I think i may have a couple sources. Now i just have to decide what to try first and i definetly dont want to over do it. Any suggestions for what i should take? Maybe just some test and winstrol ? Im looking to get some size and strength first, im already cut. what you guys think and how much?

hmmm....wonder what we will recommend?
bump? lmfao

**Big** · 05-16-2008, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by RotorHead

i jus want something minor and cheap... im going to do everything right, changing my diet and gonna buy some good stuff for PCT. What should i start with guys? id like to gain maybe 15-20 lbs of muscle. 15 viles of 200 mg Deca-Durabolin is $xxx. that plus something else and a couple PCT supplements is way over my budget right now...

edit out the price n00b

**RotorHead** · 05-16-2008, 04:45 PM

or i could spend XX on the eco-oils brand for 600mgs. hm that would probably be better. maybe just some test-e? i dont know help me out please

**Big** · 05-16-2008, 04:46 PM

I'll help, edit the prices out or be banned.

**RotorHead** · 05-16-2008, 04:48 PM

i never said i eat 100 grams a day i meant in raw meat. like chicken and fish. after everyworkout im taking a 60 gram shake with lots of leucine and a drink of halo effect. I have already gain 10 lbs in like 2 months... and some days i eat alot more than others... it depends on how busy i am. my diet will be fine stop worrying about...

**RotorHead** · 05-16-2008, 04:49 PM

i used to run track and cross country, played soccer in high school. ive always been a small build and i want to change that. dont gotta be a$$holes to me.