2nd cycle - please tell me what you think

[jabez]

week 1-12: test sust250 @ 750 mg week
week 1-4: dbol @ 50mg daily
week 1 - 18: letro @ .25 mg daily

pct:
14-18 clomid
14-18 nolvadex
14 - 18 arimidex
10-18 vitamen e

this is my second cycle. i wanted to front load this time around. so in order to do this i should shoot 1500 mg of sust the first week? secondly, is this too much test? should i drop back down to 500 mg a week. also, should i be shooting the sust EOD of E3D? diet and workout is in check. thanks.

[Dukkit]

well.... you dont need to frontload the Sust. Sust has prop and some shorter acting esters in it. Plus your using d-bol. To frontload wont really do anything.
Also, why are you dosing so high? For a second cycle you can use 500mg Test and 30 mg D-Bol and still see great gains.
What was your first cycle?? That will help us give advice on how to dose this.
Are you prone to gyno? I would cut out the Letro unless you see signs of gyno. You will get better gains with no Letro.
Your PCT looks good.

[BayouPumps]

I agree with dukkit, I will be doing almost the exact same cycle for my second one. My first was only sust 250 a week and I had great gains imo, this time will be .5cc sust 375 eod which equals 562.5/week with a dbol kicker(30mg weeks 1-4)and I am thinking that it is a little high...but it seems recommended.

[GhostCrab]

Bayou, we're gonna be runnin about the same thing, I'm gonna be doin .5 cc sust 325 eod, which is actually more than 562.5 a week tho, actually around 650 a week, but I will be starting by the end of next week hopefully, we gotta put up our logs when we do

[jabez]

my first cycle was andropen 275 for 12 weeks at 525mg a week. got some very good gains. i dont think im that prone to gyno. i got a little bit of fat under my nipples from the first cycle. i was just going to run letro just as a backup.

if this helps my stats are:
5'9"
175
bf: i would guess about 12 to 13%

[gixxerboy1]

you shouldnt need that much test. Thats alot of pct too.

[GhostCrab]

i am also going to be using the letro as backup, but im going to start with .15 and see how that works first, then bump it up

[WEBB]

week 1-12: test sust250 @ 750 mg week
week 1-4: dbol @ 50mg daily
week 1 - 18: letro @ .25 mg daily

pct:
14-18 clomid
14-18 nolvadex
14 - 18 arimidex
10-18 vitamen e

this is my second cycle. i wanted to front load this time around. so in order to do this i should shoot 1500 mg of sust the first week? secondly, is this too much test? should i drop back down to 500 mg a week. also, should i be shooting the sust EOD of E3D? diet and workout is in check. thanks.

go with .75ml eod which gives you a total of 656.25mg ew which is a nice increase from your first cycle and not to high which i think 750 ew would have been....no need to frontload as our using dbol as a kick start so just go with that....shot eod...

now as for you PCt, why in the hell do you have every tpe of AI and pct med in there....find a good cycle in the pct thread and us eit, to much is not always the best case here bro..i like letro during, and adex and clomid after but drop the nolva and vitamin e...imo

[jabez]

should dbol be taken all at once?

[WEBB]

split it up into two daily doses...once in the am and once pre workout...

[jabez]

ok thanks guys