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    Review my 1st Cycle

    What up!
    5'9 184...lean diet on point, 2583 Calories, 283 protein, 176 carbs, 58 fat.
    1st Cycle looking to build muslce but Get lean for summer
    here it is:

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    1- 24 2IU's HGH daily
    Week
    1-12 week Test E 250 will go to 500 next week

    My tabs are 200mcg clen and 30mg T3, Winnie 50mg

    WEEK 1: T3 .....1,1,2,2,3,3,4 and Clen ( 100mg )
    WEEK 2: T3 .....4,4,4,3,3,3,2 and Clen ( 100mg til Wednesday then 150 mg till Friday )
    WEEK 3: T3 Only ....2,2,2,2,1,1,1
    REPEAT!!
    take the winny on workout days, 1/2 tab before, and 1/2 tab after

    I have Arimedex that I will start on week 11...thoughts please

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    you need to add in some serms in your pct. armedex wont cut it. if im reading this correct you are planning on running the winny after you test portion of your cycle is over?? if that is the case then you should run winny the last 6 weeks of your cycle. you dont want to run winny by itself. by the way how old are you??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan121 View Post
    What up!
    5'9 184...lean diet on point, 2583 Calories, 283 protein TOO LOW PROTEIN, 176 carbs Carbs also too low, 58 fat.
    1st Cycle looking to build muslce but Get lean for summer
    here it is:

    Week
    1- 24 2IU's HGH daily 4 IU/day 5 day on and 2 days off will be best, unless u can do 4 IU ED
    Week
    1-12 week Test E 250 will go to 500 next week
    Start at 1000 1st week then go to 500/week
    or
    Just start at 500/week with no frontloading

    My tabs are 200mcg clen and 30mg T3, Winnie 50mg

    WEEK 1: T3 .....1,1,2,2,3,3,4 and Clen ( 100mg )
    WEEK 2: T3 .....4,4,4,3,3,3,2 and Clen ( 100mg til Wednesday then 150 mg till Friday )
    WEEK 3: T3 Only ....2,2,2,2,1,1,1
    REPEAT!!
    take the winny on workout days, 1/2 tab before, and 1/2 tab after
    Why only on work out days? you should do it every day 1 tab/day
    that will cause a major unstability in blood plasma levels since Winny's half life or active life is around 24hrs

    I have Arimedex that I will start on week 11...thoughts please
    Read the bold. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokethedays View Post
    Read the bold. Good luck
    DING DING DING....We have a winner...telll him what he's won Larry....hahahaha

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    I am 30 yrs old.

    Ok, protein and carbs intake needs to be higher...Provide numbers please
    F**K man...HGH is expense 4IU's is going to rip my pockets, but I will go to 3IUs...

    As for the Winny I agree...your right! Can I take a little less 1/2 tab?

    But the Test E----Why 1000 frontload? Please explain...thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by WEBB View Post
    DING DING DING....We have a winner...telll him what he's won Larry....hahahaha

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    By the way...I already stuck myself this morning 250 Test...

    Please advise....

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokethedays View Post
    Read the bold. Good luck
    agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan121 View Post
    I am 30 yrs old.

    Ok, protein and carbs intake needs to be higher...Provide numbers please
    F**K man...HGH is expense 4IU's is going to rip my pockets, but I will go to 3IUs...

    As for the Winny I agree...your right! Can I take a little less 1/2 tab?

    But the Test E----Why 1000 frontload? Please explain...thanks
    While on AAS and assuming that u r training hard enough and doing ur cardio, u should consume 2 grams of protein for each lb of body weight.
    HGH at 2 IU/day is toooo low. do it 4 IU/day 5 day/week= 20 IU
    ur way was 2 ED=16 IU/week, not much difference.
    Start HGH:
    Week 1 2 Iu/day
    week 2 3 IU/day
    week 3-24 4 IU/day
    and like I said 5 days on and 2 days off (consecutive days)


    Half life is the time frame the ester will extend the active life of the hormone up to.
    Front loading, is a kind of guarantee for higher test levels,
    when you take only 250 mg 1st week and 500 mg 2nd week. Here is wt will happen:

    Day 1 250mg
    Day 12 125mg + 250mg = 375mg
    Day 24 187.5 + 250mg = 437.5mg
    Day 36 219.2 + 250mg = 469.2mg
    Day 48 - 234.6 + 250mg = 484.6mg
    Day 60 242.3 + 250mg = 492.3mg
    Day 72 246.1 + 250mg = 496.1mg

    but if u were to frontload then:

    Day 1 500mg
    Day 12 250mg + 250mg = 500mg
    Day 24 250mg + 250mg = 500mg
    Day 36 250mg + 250mg = 500mg

    good luck

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