Question on first Test Cycle

[Wii]

for my first cycle im planning to do Test only .. im 30yrs old been working out for 3 years 5'10 .. weight 187 10% fat ..

i have Test E 200mg and Test Prop 100mg .. im planning to do 500mg a week..

my question ..would it be better to run the Test Prop first or Test E then the Prop?

[BayouPumps]

test E

[Maverick_J8]

I presume you're using both of these as you have a limited supply?

[Wii]

not limited .. well i dont think so ..3 of each .. and well i just wanted to run it for 12 weeks

but someone told me to run prop week 1-3 100mg eod then the rest of the weeks on Test E .. but im not sure if that is correct

how should my 12 weeks look like if i do run prop with E?

Thanks

[Maverick_J8]

not limited .. well i dont think so ..3 of each .. and well i just wanted to run it for 12 weeks

but someone told me to run prop week 1-3 100mg eod then the rest of the weeks on Test E .. but im not sure if that is correct

how should my 12 weeks look like if i do run prop with E?

Thanks

There's no point whatsoever.


Do a search and read up.

[ChuckLee]

not limited .. well i dont think so ..3 of each .. and well i just wanted to run it for 12 weeks

but someone told me to run prop week 1-3 100mg eod then the rest of the weeks on Test E .. but im not sure if that is correct

how should my 12 weeks look like if i do run prop with E?

Thanks

Well.
They told you right.

Test E has a long half life so it takes about 4/5 weeks before starting to kick in.
Using the prop (short ester) at the beginning of your cycle will give you some gains already from the first weeks of cycling, so, once switched to enanthate , your test levels will be high enough to let test E immediately start to kick.

Start prop at 100mg EOD for the first 3/4 weeks, then switch to test E (3 days after last prop injection) and shot it twice per week at 250mg each.
Till week 12.

What about your PCT then?

[LATS60]

Well, iv'e not ran a cycle exactly like that, but you could of course use the prop as you say, as a kickstart IE: test e Wks 1-10, prop 1-3 then run the prop again from wks 10-13, this way you wouldn't have to wait 2+ wks to start PCT.

[ChuckLee]

There's no point whatsoever.


Do a search and read up.

Explain me your statement please.

[ChuckLee]

Well, iv'e not ran a cycle exactly like that, but you could of course use the prop as you say, as a kickstart IE: test e Wks 1-10, prop 1-3 then run the prop again from wks 10-13, this way you wouldn't have to wait 2+ wks to start PCT.

^^^
Good advice.

Even better would be running test E or all the 12 weeks and use the prop for the first 2/3 weeks to kickstart it.

[Maverick_J8]

not limited .. well i dont think so ..3 of each .. and well i just wanted to run it for 12 weeks

but someone told me to run prop week 1-3 100mg eod then the rest of the weeks on Test E .. but im not sure if that is correct

how should my 12 weeks look like if i do run prop with E?

Thanks

I must be reading wrong (its been a long day).

Three of each? Three of each what?


How many vials of each do you have exactly?

[Wii]

Well.
They told you right.

Test E has a long half life so it takes about 4/5 weeks before starting to kick in.
Using the prop (short ester) at the beginning of your cycle will give you some gains already from the first weeks of cycling, so, once switched to enanthate , your test levels will be high enough to let test E immediately start to kick.

Start prop at 100mg EOD for the first 3/4 weeks, then switch to test E (3 days after last prop injection) and shot it twice per week at 250mg each.
Till week 12.

What about your PCT then?

so something like this would be ok then?

week 1-3/4 Prop 100mg eod
(3days after last Prop pin)
week 4-12 Test E 250mg monday-thursday

PCT
2 weeks later
Nolvadex
week 1-2 20mg / or 40mg?
week 3-4 10mg

[LATS60]

^^^
Good advice.

Even better would be running test E or all the 12 weeks and use the prop for the first 2/3 weeks to kickstart it.

Ah, thats what i meant chucklee, fridays my beers after work with the lads, fcuk it day. lol

[ChuckLee]

Ah, thats what i meant chucklee, fridays my beers after work with the lads, fcuk it day. lol

You juicing drinkers
I used to do like that too some time ago

[ChuckLee]

so something like this would be ok then?

week 1-3/4 Prop 100mg eod
(3days after last Prop pin)
week 4-12 Test E 250mg monday-thursday

PCT
2 weeks later
Nolvadex
week 1-2 20mg / or 40mg?
week 3-4 10mg

Yes, or better keep the prop the first 3 weeks as a kickstarter, and run test E for the entire 12 weeks.

Nolva alone won't suffice for PCT i'm afraid.
Add a mild AI like aromasin or proviron .
Or you could just add clomid and run it for the first 3 weeks of pct.

[LATS60]

Yea, i'd go with clomid too, you can shoot the biggest load and then have a tearful few minutes to yourself lol.
Seriously, yep clomid every time, well that was when i cycled.

[Wii]

Yes, or better keep the prop the first 3 weeks as a kickstarter, and run test E for the entire 12 weeks.

Nolva alone won't suffice for PCT i'm afraid.
Add a mild AI like aromasin or proviron .
Or you could just add clomid and run it for the first 3 weeks of pct.

15 weeks instead of 12

so something like this would be ok then?

week 1-3 Prop 100mg eod
(3days after last Prop pin)
week 4-15 Test E 250mg monday-thursday


Aromasin and nolva is fine together?

aromasin 25mg EOD?

[duggadoo]

no here ya go

test e 1-12 (weeks
prop 1-3/4 )weeks)

pct start 2 weeks after last test e pin

the prop is a kick start since you wont see anythin from the test e for 4/5 weeks so Test E all the way through prop just at the beginning

[ChuckLee]

no here ya go

test e 1-12 (weeks
prop 1-3/4 )weeks)

pct start 2 weeks after last test e pin

the prop is a kick start since you wont see anythin from the test e for 4/5 weeks so Test E all the way through prop just at the beginning

^^^^This way, sorry for have explained myself bad.

[Wii]

no here ya go

test e 1-12 (weeks
prop 1-3/4 )weeks)

pct start 2 weeks after last test e pin

the prop is a kick start since you wont see anythin from the test e for 4/5 weeks so Test E all the way through prop just at the beginning

ok since i wanna do 500mg a week .. how much of prop EOD 100mg and
Test E 200mg (M/Th)


Thanks

[Wii]

anyone?

[ChuckLee]

nah, shot 250mg of test E twice a week and 100mg prop EOD.

Then you'll just keep those 500mg/week of enan.

it's useful to have more test injected first weeks.

[naturalsux]

ok since i wanna do 500mg a week .. how much of prop EOD 100mg and
Test E 200mg (M/Th)


Thanks

1.25mls of test e twice a week=500mg.

1ml of test prop eod=100mg.

[naturalsux]

ok since i wanna do 500mg a week .. how much of prop EOD 100mg and
Test E 200mg (M/Th)


Thanks

also you will be doing more than 500mg a week the first 3-4 weeks. but your not

gonna get the effects of test e for the first 4-5 weeks. thats why you going to

be running the prop eod.

[Wii]

Thanks for all the help fellas ..