Second Cycle Questions

**marcanes29** · 05-16-2008, 06:59 PM

I have the opportunity to do a cycle of winny and deca for 8 weeks. My first cycle was test e about two years ago. I ran it for 12 weeks.
I’m 29 years old, my height is between 5.8-5.9, and I weigh 176lbs. My diet is pretty good but would go from good to great if I do this cycle. I’ve been working out for 3 years. My goal is to gain more muscle mass but also to get cut.

Is this a good second cycle?
Is this too short of the cycle (8 weeks).

**Big** · 05-16-2008, 07:03 PM

That is a very, very poor cycle for anyone.

**marcanes29** · 05-16-2008, 07:08 PM

Can you tell me why?

**Big** · 05-16-2008, 07:12 PM

I can and will, although it should be noted that being a member since 2005 you should already know.
Test should be the base for any cycle, especially any cycle containing a 19nor compound like tren or deca . You will find some bro's who have run a 19nor without test and liked it, but the vast majority regret it due to the fact that a 19nor will stop your natural test production from the very first shot, and men function better with test present.
Deca should be run for at least 10 weeks, as it is a long ester.
You didn't list dosages, injection frequency, or specific timelines for the cycle or pct, but that is irrelevant at this point because the cycle is a failure as written just for the reasons listed above.