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    First Injected Cycle.

    Hey whats up guys, Just a few basic questions about my first injected cycle. First I've done a couple orals before last year I liked it however I'd like to start a new cycle next month.

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    5'9" 180 13%BF

    24 years old

    First off I have some Anadrol 50 left over like 20x tabs So im thinkin throw that in the begining of the cycle to give me a boost?

    I'm pretty much looking for winny + test Cause im trying to stay away from the bloated or high water retension look. It is almost summer time.

    So whatever would give me the best strength with some size as well as that dry cut look if that makes any sense.

    If you think I should try something else let me know, I have alot of stuff avalible I just would like someone to put it in a chart for me like how many cc's how many times a week for im thinking 8 weeks?

    Sorry for sounding like such a newbie but I am new!!

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    most of the time i'd recommend test enth for a newbie but if you want to you could run prop instead, though that would mean injecting ed or eod, would you be able to keep that up, and be honest because if you can't then you'll get water bloat and other sides from the fluctuations in your blood test levels and waste gear?

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    Well Since its my first time injecting maybe everyday is a little much lol You think the winny is ok tho? I guess EQ could be another option instead of winny. I can also get sus.
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    So if I ran with enth as my test what would you say 500mg twice a week?

    And should I run it 8 or 12 weeks? and is winny a good choice to run with it? If so how much a week and do I start it week 1?

    Sorry for all the questions but thanks in adance.

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    test e 250mg twice a week(500mg a week total) would be good and you could run an AI(arimidex or aromasin ) to keep water down(but my opinion only run the AI when water retention gets bad), watch your sodium and drink plenty of water as well... go 10 or 12 weeks with test then a proper pct 2 weeks after last injection(nolva clomid and aromasin) for a kicker get enough anadrol for 4 weeks then discontinue since the test would be kickin in full swing around week 4 or 5 (most of the time dont quote me) hope that helps just do some more research youll figure everythin out in time... post a purposed cycle on here as well so we can critique it...

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    Alright cool, thanks what about the Winny tho should I put that in my cycle as well before I post it? Also Is it possible to put winny in the same shot as test or negative?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JT8561 View Post
    Alright cool, thanks what about the Winny tho should I put that in my cycle as well before I post it?winny is good for getting that hard vascular look at the end of a cutting or lean bulking cycle and should be run for about 6 weeks, your is injectable right?
    Also Is it possible to put winny in the same shot as test or negative?yes you can, though if your winny is water soluable it will look like a lava lamp, but it's still fine to mix them
    here's a post i wrote a while ago, it'll outline a basic test enth cycle with a dbol kicker(you can use anadrol if you like, though most people perfer dbol, less harsh on your liver, your choice though), you can add the winny the last six weeks if you like

    Test Beginner cycle info

    here, i'll lay out some stuff for you,
    first thing, you need to get your diet in check, here is some threads on cutting, lean bulking and pure bulking to give you some info, but you need to post your diet for critiqueing, your wasting your money otherwise

    Diet

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=75729
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=143553
    http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/calories/calories.html

    only when you have your diet down should you think about cycling, a beginner cycle should look like this

    1-12 test e 500mg/week
    1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)

    take your test injections 3.5 days apart, like monday morning and thursday evening

    split your dbol up throughout the day, this will keep your blood levels stable, which means less sides and more gains

    if you take the dbol, supplement with liv52 to help you liver cope with breaking down the dbol

    btw, here are the profiles on the AS you will be using so read them and get to know the stuff your putting in your body

    Test Enth
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199827

    Dianabol
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199829

    Next is your pct, which should begin two weeks after your last test injection and should be a phneedo's pct, whats that you ask? here it is

    Pheendo's PCT
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94626

    while your at it read this one as well for future cycles

    Anthony Roberts PCT
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758


    Now for some other important stuff, you need to have some arimidex on hand in case you start getting water retention or gyno, so get some, in fact, read this thread 3x before you start your cycle as it will tell you....

    All You Need To Know About Gyno

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

    that should get you read for your cycle, best of luck

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