orals & injectables

[xmarine30uk]

Hey guys, am new to all this, am looking to cut as well as gain mass, cud any1 tell me wot sort of cycles r best 4 this?

[hellapimpin]

Umm...whats ur experience with lifting, ur age, and your stats?

[xmarine30uk]

Im 30, av been liftin on/off 4 bout a year, i weigh 14 st, any help u cud give wud be really appreciated buddy

[hellapimpin]

about of year of working out eh...hrmm..not great for buildilng a base to go off of to start juicing...

I would say work out for another year b4 juicing, but you prolly wont..lolz..so what ima recommend is a simple cycle.. it will make you happy im sure

Test enanthate - 500mg a week for 12weeks striaght ...2 shots a week..split them ..like monday and thursday injections
also you want to run ur nolva, liquidex through out cycle..(im kinda old school, liquidex may have a substitute nowerdays, and clomid for post cycle

eat 2g protein per 1Lb bodyweight every day( iknow its alot, but u need stuff to grow off of)

also eat a good amount of carbs..research diets, great info in this forum..

It's really simple, but it will do wonders. Research Test e for first cycles...Thas all u need, anymore would be a waste...cept for maybe some winny towards the end of your cycle

[xmarine30uk]

Really gud of u 2 give advice buddy, will act on it pronto, u really know ur shit geezer!

[hellapimpin]

/cheers GoodLuck

[LATS60]

As above, simple test 1st cycle is the way to go, though you'd benefit more if you trained natty for at least another year.
I'd keep nolva and letro/adex on hand and only use it if you need too.
Why take a drug you might not need.

[duggadoo]

whats your body fat % by chance

[xmarine30uk]

No idea dude, aint measured yet

[Mbuffguy]

lose fat and gain mass sounds like u dont know anything about working out at all

[hellapimpin]

i think he meant lose bodyfat and gain muscle ..lolz thats what i got from it