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    need a little guidance

    thanks guys
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    get over your fear of needles or forget about juice. sorry but that is the cold hard truth. forget about orals only.

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    Even with Anavar , you still wanna run some test. I can't even feel needles anymore. You will get used to it fast...

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    the issue with the needles is that i'm a former drug addict. It's a little complicated in this regard. Is a cycle of Anavar pointless?

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    Anavar is very mild and probably wont help you towards ya goals.

    Remember the injections are intramuscular and the point of these injections is to better your self rather than damage ya self.

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    im an alcoholic and i can still have aluminum cans in my house, it doesnt make me wanna booze. same thing. the urge is always there no matter what ya know. 25 gauge 1.5 inch needles are the way to go.

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    being new, I'd rather not use pins this first time. Is this idea about doing a cycle of Anavar a waste of time?
    if not I'd love some advice about how to go about it

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    does anyone here have experience with an Anavar only cycle?

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    you probably wont get a lot of response since most people wont run anavar only. but i am sure there are some good threads. just go to the search button and put "anavar only" and you should come up with lots of info. read up then if you have more exact questions i am sure more will respond. like if you ask "do you guys think i should run 60 or 80 mg/day" or something like that.

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    thanks so much man.
    you've been a real help

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    Quote Originally Posted by lex57 View Post
    you probably wont get a lot of response since most people wont run anavar only. but i am sure there are some good threads. just go to the search button and put "anavar only" and you should come up with lots of info. read up then if you have more exact questions i am sure more will respond. like if you ask "do you guys think i should run 60 or 80 mg/day" or something like that.
    Lex is right man, if you are going to do AAs, do it right. Anavar should be cycled with other AAS. Anavar should be taken two to three times daily after meals that way you get optimal absorption of the oxandrolone. The rule of thumb is usually 0.125 mg./pound of body weight daily. I hate needles too, but I got over it real quick, it doesn't hurt like you think it will, just read up and know what you are doing.

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    thanks man.
    I've been reading my ass off. I think it's time to take some action. I don't think it hurts to be over cautious when it comes to this because I don't have a friend on hand to help me along with this. Anything I do is based on the info I'm reading and advice from you guys. I don't want to just approach some dude at the gym and ask him about this stuff. People just seem to keep it private here in New York
    given my stats what do you think would be a good Anavar cycle and pct

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    Well, if you are going to do it, according to your body weight, you would want to take about 20mg/day. Anavar should not be taken for several consecutive months, since, as with almost all orals it is 1 7-alpha alkylated, meaning it is liver toxic. PCT....... that is a good question, mainly because I have never run a Anavar only cyle. Sorry I can't help you there.

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    i've read that 20mg is low. I was thinking 40mg. but then again, I'm not a big dude. Perhaps I should post a thread to inquire about the pct

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    not to be a dick here man, but didnt you alreayd start a thread and i gave you some advice about shit...where did that go...is my advice not good enough:lo:

    seriously whats going on

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    here is your other thead....Need some advice about starting up

    also i would take the part about askin if this site is good for gear outta your posts, your just askin for guys to pm you tellin you they can helpp ytou out and you'll get scammed....pm a respected member here and they will be able to fill you in on the ins and outs of the ads....

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    Quote Originally Posted by WEBB View Post
    here is your other thead....Need some advice about starting up

    also i would take the part about askin if this site is good for gear outta your posts, your just askin for guys to pm you tellin you they can helpp ytou out and you'll get scammed....pm a respected member here and they will be able to fill you in on the ins and outs of the ads....
    he probably doesnt trust anybody with 10k posts.

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    well thats fair....

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    I did appreciate your advice greatly. You also told me that you weren't the person to ask about pill only cycles so I decided to seek out more advice. Nothing personal brother. I also posted another thread because these move along at such a quick rate.
    I was a bit concerned about posting that question about getting gear. Forgive me if it was out of line. I'm learning the etiquette of this forum as I go.

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    ya its not so much against the rules what you did ask, but you will have some guy pm you saying they can help you and the you will be scammed...just looking out for you....

    as for your thread...i did offer a few other suggestions like a low dose dbol or tbol cycle since your diet will be spot on you will not have to much bloat and i think you could get the muscle you want and not to many bad sides, if any....i have not done pill only cycles, but my ex did run var for a while and at 15mg she was happy with the gains she got...so if you do run it, run it at 40mg at least daily and for 8 weeks and i think you will be happy...

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    I'm trying to be very polite here as I do have great respect for you guys. If this were a boxing ring, where I am the expert, I would expect the same courtesy from the less experienced so please forgive my newbie mistakes

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    sorry, i posted that last response before I read this last one from you. Whats your advice concerning pct

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    now this is where i bow out gracefully....i can tell you what are good pill only cytcles but a good pct on one is a place that i am lost....sorry man...

    oh and if we were in the ring, you would never hit me....i would be outta there screamin like a 5yr old girl who just had her barbie stolen....

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    I wouldn't even try. I like you to much. Thanks so much for all your help and patience. One more thing, who is that in your profile pic?

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    her name is Gemma Atkinson i believe...found her on the net, but i am pretty sure thats her....i screwed up your friend invite so i added you...sorry man....

    as for pct i have checked a few things and with a var cycle pct is not going to be hugely important and a simple addition of clomid at the end would be good in myopinion...

    let me know wht you decide to run man

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    Thanks for doing some research on my behalf. Your awesome. I'm having trouble with this site- accessing my account, friends and messaging other members so i cant pm you.
    Could you be more specific about how to run the clomid after the cycle.

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    well you need to have 25posts to have your pm abilities activated....

    as for clomid after i would start it about 3 days after your last pill and run it for 2-3 weeks at a dose of about 300mg the first day, 100mg/ed day 2-11, 50 mg/ed day 12-21....hope this helps man

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    oh, that explains the pm issue. I assume viewing profiles is the same issue.
    this info is great. I'm going to take ur advice on all this.

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    ya it is the same issue...

    well good luck and keep me posted and feel free to pm me with any questions...when you can...:lo:

    i am outta here...

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    hey Buddy. It's been a while.
    I've decided to see how big I can get with just proper diet, a good supplement stack and hard work in the gym. I feel like it's best to see what my potential is naturally before taking it to the next level. I really want to max my body out this way first. I've been training really hard and dieting well and I feel great. pumped and I'm definitely making gains. I'll be sure to keep u posted. Thanks again for all your advice

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