Hairloss and Juice

[Deen54]

Read up!


http://www.hairloss-research.org/steroids.html

[MR_T]

wow kind of contradicts the newbie test 500mg/week cycle recommended by everybody

[Deen54]

Question everything you read on this board alot of people just have diarrhea
of the mouth with no facts behind anything.

[VR4]

good read

[fedorrulz]

Read up!


http://www.hairloss-research.org/steroids.html

great article, very true.

I disagree with primo...caused tons of shedding for me and others.

The article did not adress the safest steroid for hairloss which is TBOL. Anavar at below 50mg is pretty safe too.

[fedorrulz]

wow kind of contradicts the newbie test 500mg/week cycle recommended by everybody

That much test caused my 35 year old friend to have a pizza face full of zits. Imagine the shock of his co-workers when he walked into the office shortly after starting this god almighty cycle. There is only one reason for a 35 year old man to have zits = steroids ! I had terrible breakouts with test, tren and others.

I never recommend 500mg test to anyone. You will be stuck with the bad sides for months using test E or C.

[Deen54]

has anyone not got zits on test E or cyp?

i think some people will be worse off than others. For me my back has some.
But none on my face.

[MASTER]

Oh dear, a primo/deca /var cycle, what next? Tren only?? Primo hairloss is underrated, I know plenty of people that wont touch the stuff, because of the effect it has on their barnet. It is a dht derivative at the end of the day. Test hairloss is easy to deal with, because finasteride and nizoral will generally prevent any issues. Also a cycle like that is rather likely to destroy your libido, look forward to erectile issues and the ladies not loving you. You will get conflicting advice from all sorts of places, it is up to you to make sense of it. Don't forget everyone is different and with drugs nothing is definate, a large proportion is to do with how your body reacts. I know guys that run 2gs of test a week and have never had a spot, I also know guys that get crazy acne on 500mg. You don't know until you try, generalisations don't always apply.

[Deen54]

True primo is a dht derivative is it not?... same with Winny..I try to avoid products
that contain or convert to DHT at all costs.

The pct's also ...like proviron also.

We should start a thread and list all dht derivatives.

[Deen54]

or we take spironolactone which to me has more side effects.

[ChuckLee]

True primo is a dht derivative is it not?... same with Winny..I try to avoid products
that contain or convert to DHT at all costs.

The pct's also ...like proviron also.

We should start a thread and list all dht derivatives.

HAH, test coverts to DHT, so would you cycle without it??

[ChuckLee]

Yes, Primo is a DHT derivative too

[Deen54]

yes i know i read that the other day.

The thing is I have done juice before and never suffered the problems with hair loss
but now i am older so it may be different.

I was thinking of changing it to Test Prop in case i have problems i can stop.

[ChuckLee]

yes i know i read that the other day.

The thing is I have done juice before and never suffered the problems with hair loss
but now i am older so it may be different.

I was thinking of changing it to Test Prop in case i have problems i can stop.

Great thing.

Keep in mind that in any case it's more easy to lose hair for who's already genetically prone.

[Maverick_J8]

EQ safe on the hair???

I've never personally used, but everyone I know who has, reports extreme shedding being one of its sides.

Nice article though. Given me more confidence in some other compounds i'm yet to experience.

[Deen54]

with EQ is seems to change to DHB instead of DHT...so i think you get a break
there...i don't think DHB affects hair.

[Kratos]

I thought it was a horrible article, poorly written, totally qualitative, just retarded bull crap.

[lex57]

I thought it was a horrible article, poorly written, totally qualitative, just retarded bull crap.

what else would you expect, i said it once and i'll say it again...........he is a POSER. plain and simple.

[Maverick_J8]

he is a POSER. plain and simple.

Who??? The thread writer?

[Kratos]

True primo is a dht derivative is it not?... same with Winny..I try to avoid products
that contain or convert to DHT at all costs.

The pct's also ...like proviron also.

We should start a thread and list all dht derivatives.

What? Kinda a special education thread.

[Kratos]

Who??? The thread writer?

Deen, he is corrupting the board with poor information.

[Kratos]

Question everything you read on this board alot of people just have diarrhea
of the mouth with no facts behind anything.

Ummm, you...

[lex57]

Deen, he is corrupting the board with poor information.

this may be the understatement of the year............

[Kratos]

The thing is I have done juice before

really? But you are so little.

[ChuckLee]

Deen, he is corrupting the board with poor information.

He's contending the title with hdd123

[Kratos]

great article, very true.
.

I like how deen and this guy agree it's a great article. Another contender for the title.

[Deen54]

I think it should of listed all the steriods . It only mentioned a few.
It never mentioned Winny..and that is a derivative of DHT.

I like how you guys talk with no evidence just opinions. You guys are very poor
educators for this board.

You're just haters...

the other think .. a doctor smokes does that mean he doesn't know what he is doing?
just another example of how idiotic you guys think.

[Z-Ro]

I think it should of listed all the steriods . It only mentioned a few.
It never mentioned Winny..and that is a derivative of DHT.

I like how you guys talk with no evidence just opinions. You guys are very poor
educators for this board.

You're just haters...

the other think .. a doctor smokes does that mean he doesn't know what he is doing?
just another example of how idiotic you guys think.

Poor educators? The guy states in his article that this is based off of his personal experience.

Whats funny is EVERYONE REACTS DIFFERENTLY in terms of hair loss and AAS.

There are AAS that are generally known for being "hair safe" but thats about it.

Var/Primo/Tbol are known for being safe but honestly, your chances of getting those compounds that are real are slim. Tbol is rarely produced anymore and real Primo is very very very hard to get.

Also, many people have contradicted the whole Deca while using Finasteride/Dutasteride theory.

Generally known as safe:

Tbol, Eq, Var, Deca, Test (with DHT inhibitor)

Generally known as not safe:

Winny, Masteron , Tren , Test (without a DHT inhib.), Dbol , Drol

Again, this is a generalized statement because everyone is different. Whoever this guy is does not know how Test with affect guy A, B, or C. He just drew up speculations on his own experience, wrote it, and some people think its the truth.

[Z-Ro]

with EQ is seems to change to DHB instead of DHT...so i think you get a break
there...i don't think DHB affects hair.

Actually, DHB in large amounts is potent in terms of hair loss. EQ changes into small quantities rather than large amounts.

[Prada]

Poor educators? The guy states in his article that this is based off of his personal experience.

Whats funny is EVERYONE REACTS DIFFERENTLY in terms of hair loss and AAS.

There are AAS that are generally known for being "hair safe" but thats about it.

Var/Primo/Tbol are known for being safe but honestly, your chances of getting those compounds that are real are slim. Tbol is rarely produced anymore and real Primo is very very very hard to get.

Also, many people have contradicted the whole Deca while using Finasteride/Dutasteride theory.

Generally known as safe:

Tbol, Eq, Var, Deca, Test (with DHT inhibitor)

Generally known as not safe:

Winny, Masteron , Tren , Test (without a DHT inhib.), Dbol , Drol

Again, this is a generalized statement because everyone is different. Whoever this guy is does not know how Test with affect guy A, B, or C. He just drew up speculations on his own experience, wrote it, and some people think its the truth.

Agreed. A subjective article and to be wary of. Ive seen that article before and I believe it is quite old.

[Deen54]

It's like anything in life an article will come out saying Vitamin E is bad.
Do you stop taking vitamin E because of that one article? No..
You can find other articles saying Vitamin E is good.

What is the truth?..that only comes from experience..I said before..we are all
biochemically unique.. what may be good for one person may not be good for
another.

[Kratos]

Hey deen sorry to flame you earlier, I woke up with a hangover. Peace dude, post whatev you want, I really don't care, I'm just having fun and try to help when I can...most of the time I'm at work sticking it to the man. Let's keep it friendly, but I'll be glad to debate you on anything you want to know about.

[MASTER]

Yeh lol, the one thing it did get right, is drol. Drol converts readily to just about every hormone and variation of hormone you can think of, and in large amounts. It will annihilate your hair if you are predisposed, although if you are, you are going to have problems with all gear.

[Deen54]

Yea, No problem...debates are fun..and it's also where you learn the most.

I think this site will help me alot. At the end of the day there is information
on the board and it is up to the individual to choose the correct as
opposed to the misled information.

Choose wisely my friends.

Last night I came back from a wedding...clocked down a few drinks...i don't remember typing up that bit on Vitamin E. lol.

[Atomini]

This article is bullshit. All conjecture.

Steroids do not cause hairloss.

Hairloss is hereditary. AAS aggrivates and speeds up the hairloss process IF YOU HAVE THE PREDISPOSED GENES FOR HAIRLOSS. Otherwise, you're safe.

Nearly all of the AAS listed in that article that the guy touted as being 'safe' for hairloss were DHT based steroids. Shit like Anavar , Primo, etc. have all caused hairloss in people who are very very sensitive to MPB.

[fedorrulz]

True primo is a dht derivative is it not?... same with Winny..I try to avoid products
that contain or convert to DHT at all costs.
The pct's also ...like proviron also.

We should start a thread and list all dht derivatives.

Sounds like your list of steroids to use is very small.

[fedorrulz]

EQ safe on the hair???

I've never personally used, but everyone I know who has, reports extreme shedding being one of its sides.

Nice article though. Given me more confidence in some other compounds i'm yet to experience.

I used EQ with propecia and had a good amount of shedding. Nothing like the scalping that winny, dbol and tren did though. I cycle one roid at a time so I can see the side effects they each give me.

[jay112]

Makes me laugh as when i hear guys on steroids saying they wont lose hair because their dads arent bald but isnt it to do with the males on your mums side?

[Deen54]

yes i heard that before the males on the mom's side.

it mostly will come down to genetics..but if you are susceptible
or prone to hair loss it will speed it up.

[Jacoby]

Makes me laugh as when i hear guys on steroids saying they wont lose hair because their dads arent bald but isnt it to do with the males on your mums side?

Damn that sucks, I don't know my mom so i've never seen any of her family. Guess I will find out soon, start my cycle today.