clen/t3/var

[magicstick2003]

This really goes against all that i know and normally do BUT i'm curious about opinions on this cycle. Not really looking to bulk at the moment. Doing cardio and eating solid, looking for an aid. I know t3 without anything will not descriminate and will burn fat and muscle so my thought process behind this was to use the var to slow or hault any muscle loss while using a reducaed calorie diet. Obviously the clen and t3 are there to help with fat loss.

I've been tossing this idea around because i want to do another cycle in the future (prop tren var t3) but i would like to cut down more first. Kinda looking to jump start the ********* but i'm really not in a rush so, i will more then likely continue the old fashion way with diet and cardio. However im interested to hear opinions on going the t3 clen var route.


magic

[Phate]

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i read winny instead of var, it could work, though you'd have to monitor your body very carefully

[magicstick2003]

pretty much just throwing it around at this point. like i said it's not something i have to do. diet and cardio are working just a slower process is all. everyone keeps telling me to just cut up and i'll look real big. problem is bulking is so much more fun lol

[Phate]

why not just run the clen and t3, that's what i'm doing, with a very high protein diet, i eat about 400g protein a day and i'm 180lbs at 8-9%bf, seems to work well for me, plus you've seen the doses of clen i run

[magicstick2003]

why not just run the clen and t3, that's what i'm doing, with a very high protein diet, i eat about 400g protein a day and i'm 180lbs at 8-9%bf, seems to work well for me, plus you've seen the doses of clen i run

also an idea. i'd def like to add in a little something. used clen before and i liked everything bout it but the ridiculous muscle cramps (at higher doses) even with 1.5-2 gals of water a day. taurine helped but minimally. figured if i looked into something like this i could keep the dose a little lower.

[Phate]

have you looked into albuterol, it's a good alternative, seems to be even more effective for fat burning and a bit more anabolic , so to speak, plus none of the sides you get with clen , the only downside is it has to be taken three times a day and costs a bit more

[magicstick2003]

have you looked into albuterol, it's a good alternative, seems to be even more effective for fat burning and a bit more anabolic, so to speak, plus none of the sides you get with clen, the only downside is it has to be taken three times a day and costs a bit more

haven;t really looked into it. got so much clen layin around figured i'd go that route. i'll def take a gander into the world of albuterol though if nothing else won;t hurt to know about it for the future.

[Pinnacle]

have you looked into albuterol, it's a good alternative, seems to be even more effective for fat burning and a bit more anabolic, so to speak, plus none of the sides you get with clen, the only downside is it has to be taken three times a day and costs a bit more

Not true at all. It's useless for fat loss.

[Phate]

how so?

[Pinnacle]

how so?

It's weak. Possibly you should start reading on bodybuilding sites, since actual bodybuilders(like myself) know things scientists don't know. It's common knowledge in the BB community that albuterol is a waste of time.
Start reading the magazine in my avatar. Every month they have great articles on fat loss/ fat loss drugs. Check out MD's site as well. You'd be surprised at the knowledge there. :-)
I post under a different name on that board and have a huge Q & A thread

[Phate]

whats with the bitchy attitude, i asked why albuterol doesn't work and you get all defensive, why? i asked a simple question, which wasn't meant to question your knowledge, just to allow me to share in it, a simple answer backed with some scientific info would have sufficed

[Pinnacle]

whats with the bitchy attitude, i asked why albuterol doesn't work and you get all defensive, why? i asked a simple question, which wasn't meant to question your knowledge, just to allow me to share in it, a simple answer backed with some scientific info would have sufficed

No attitude at all. I'm stating fact. You came off like albuterol was better than clen ,and it isn't.
I was, and still am, suggesting you should possibly visit other sites that aren't directly steroid related. First hand experience from bodybuilders out weighs bullsh*t clinical studies any day of the week. You want to stay in a shell and surround yourself with inexperienced people, then so be it.
Further, if I offended you, use the ignore feature. You won't hurt my feelings one bit. Trust me on that one. :-)

Pinnacle

[Phate]

didn't hurt my feelings at all and i'll take your advice and visit some of the other sites and read up on stuff, didn't mean to offend you either i just thought you were talking down to me and that's one thing that pisses me off very quickly, anyway, thanks for the info

[goldenear]

It's useless for fatloss.

That's a pretty broad statement and completely wrong. I've been running 16mg/daily of Ventorlin (extended release version of albuterol) and have experienced very nice results. Is it stronger than clen ? Of course not. By the same token, you're not likely to experience all of the adverse side effects of clen or even ephedrine when using albuterol because the half life is so much less than clen's. But they're both beta-2 agonists that operate in the same general manner. And if you're an athlete that needs to maintain decent aerobic performance, albuterol is infinitely better than clen. That's why the entire pro cycling community has a TUE for albuterol.