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    Need An Educated Opinion, Please Help!

    Should I abort my sustanon cycle

    I was looking at the calendar and things don't look beneficial for me.

    I started with my first injection on Sunday May 4th, of a 10 week cycle. I am currently in week 4 and have not noticed much. I will be 4 1/2 weeks on this shit, before a new order from a more credible source arrives. I don't think my current stuff is 100% real or maybe I am just a skeptical bitch. I think it is underpowered.

    Friends says I should get this rush while I work out. I don't but some other things happen. I did gain some weight, I would have to say around 7lbs already. 181.5 today. That is 2lbs heavier than last monday. I get sweats at night and my injections hurt like they should (this could be just a bad reaction too). My body feels harder and looks somewhat bigger, hard for me to tell because I see myself in the mirror everyday. My strength is also increasing. All of this could be coincidental too. I fasted for 47 days ending 1 week before my cycle began. Orthodox Lent. I decreased in size and strength each week, because I could not eat enough protein. I got the flu too and missed 10 days during lent. I pressed 275 4 times before lent started. I have though gotten stronger and surpassed in each muscle since then. Just hard to tell for me.

    I know 3 full weeks is just not enough but something just does not feel correct. But after 3 weeks I am really just back where I was naturally before I was forced to alter my diet.


    I am receiving 5000mg more, which would be a 10 week cycle. I have only 53 days until I leave for Vacation. 7.5 weeks. This would be fine if you considered the fact that what I was taking now is good stuff. Then I would have a perfect 12 weeks.

    Option 1: When the Sus comes just take that and don't worry about gains and loss.

    .7ml per injection EOD gives me 612.5mg per week. I end up using most of it,
    leaving behind a mere 400mg (1 ampule and a bit more). No big deal and do my PCT in Greece (A 3.5 week vacation).

    Option 2: Continue on .6ml EOD using 525 per week. I use 4000mg and I have 4 ampules left over.
    Again not a big deal but a bit of a waste.

    Option 3: Save it and use it later. (2 reasons I decided to do this) I could not achieve what I was able to in the past naturally and I wanted to look 1000 times better than I did last year on vacation. But my main goal is to maintain!!!

    I was planning the big idea that on vacation I would just do 50 pushups and dips and run to maintain myself, my father has dumbbells and do like 100 curls, about 4x per week. Basically I was planning this even before I thought of taking the sus. The problem with this great idea is that I have read that over training after coming off a cycle is the worst thing that you could ever do.

    Got this off the site. (After coming off steriods )

    Reduce your workout schedule. Avoid maintaining the same workout program as during steroid regime since this would only magnify the catabolic effect. The athlete should not come up with the crazy idea of compensating a possible loss of performance by increasing the extent and intensity of his workout since such an action would have a negative effect. Limit yourself to your basic exercises, train every muscle once a week, and try to maintain your strength as much as possible. Do not train more than four times a week and limit the workout sessions to 60 minutes. Several so called "experts" are of the opinion that the athlete after a steroid regime should avoid the heavy basic movements for some time and suggest that exercises are carried out more frequently with lower weights. Dear Reader, try it. Those who used to make 8 repetitions of squats with 400 pounds and now switch to leg extensions or leg presses with 12-15 repetitions will wonder how fast an upper thigh can lose size.Reduce your workout schedule. Avoid maintaining the same workout program as during steroid regime since this would only magnify the catabolic effect. The athlete should not come up with the crazy idea of compensating a possible loss of performance by increasing the extent and intensity of his workout since such an action would have a negative effect. Limit yourself to your basic exercises, train every muscle once a week, and try to maintain your strength as much as possible. Do not train more than four times a week and limit the workout sessions to 60 minutes. Several so called "experts" are of the opinion that the athlete after a steroid regime should avoid the heavy basic movements for some time and suggest that exercises are carried out more frequently with lower weights. Dear Reader, try it. Those who used to make 8 repetitions of squats with 400 pounds and now switch to leg extensions or leg presses with 12-15 repetitions will wonder how fast an upper thigh can lose size.

    http://www.steroid.com/offster.php

    What do I do?

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    Sounds like the sust is real.

    But i would bet your diet sucks and workout is not in check. I would look at those and see if you can save this cycle being your 4 weeks in.

    I would also like to see you stats.

    religion fasting and bb'ing not work together.

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    You suspect your sus is fake and haven't gain much but then you say you say have gained 7lbs!!! 4 weeks is nothing and takes time to build up to full blood concentration. Your diet and training will not be in order, i can just guess with what you have written. I would just carry on with the planned cycle and see what happens.

    what are your stats?
    How long have you been training?
    Age?

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    Stats bro, and ride it out a little longer. Take what Marcus and Gsxxr say to heart brother

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    Diet and Workout

    My Diet:

    Wake up at 7am and have just a bowl of cereal (Special K Protein Plus), with fruit (mango, pear or anything with high sugar). I cant eat in the morning its just not me and I am really forcing it down.

    Gym at 7:45, protein shake and an orange after lift

    After Gym I get to work (10am) and my chef (own restaurant) makes me 4 whole egss and 4 egg-whites with ham, bacon or prosciutto.

    First Lunch: (2pm) 2 plain 5oz grilled pieces of chicken Protein Shake

    Second: (5pm) I generally cheat here and eat some pasta, rice or another carb with dairy. I put Salmon or Swordfish in with this meal.

    Dinner: This meal varies widly and its generally around 8pm, it could be another bowl of pasta, with chicken or anything that I can eat that is available. This one is the tough one for me because I have alot to do, its still busy sometimes at work and I have to get things done to leave. Protein Shake after this.

    Snack: 10:30 This is whatever my wife made for the family, generally a lite lean meal. She diets and worksout.

    Sleep at 11:00 to 11:30

    Stats: I am 6' even. 182lbs, body fat is low. I'd say 14ish. Not sure but you can see 6 of my stomach muscles.

    Workout:
    Monday:
    Chest- 12,10,8,6 - Flat Bench
    10,8,6 - Incline Dumbbells
    10,8,6 - Decline Dumbbells
    10,8,6 - Cable Flys
    Bis- Straight bar Curls 12,10,8,6
    Preacher Curls 10,8,6
    Machine Concentrated Curls 10,8,6

    Abs- 9 sets of 25
    3 straight leg raises, 3 leg lifts and 3 crunches

    Tuesday- Legs
    Squats 12,10,10,8
    Machine Press- 12,10,8
    Leg Curls-12,10,8
    Leg Extensions - 12,10,8
    Calves - Machine Presses 12,10,8
    Standing Presses 12,10,8

    Wed Off

    Thursday
    Back: Wide Grip Pull Downs 12,10,8,6
    Hammer Strength Single Arm Rows 10,8,6
    Close Grip Cable Rows 10,8,6
    Close Grip Pull Downs 10,8,6

    Lower Back:
    3 sets of 25

    Traps:
    3 Dumbells Shrugs
    3 Straight Bar Shrugs

    Abs: Same

    Friday: Shoulders
    3 Sets of Straight Bar Military Press 12,10,8,6
    3 Sets of Dumbbell Presses 10,8,6
    3 Sets of Foward Dumbbell Raises 10,8,6
    3 Sets of Side Dumbbel Raises 10,8,6

    Tris
    3 sets of Skull Crushers 10,8,6
    3 sets of Dumbell Behind Neck 10,8,6
    3 sets of Machine Extensions 10,8,6

    Abs: Same

    Saturday & Sunday off. I know that breaking this routine up over 5 days or 6 days would be ideal but I own a restaurant (I get two days off), have a wife and 2 kids. I have to devote some time to my family and my house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    You suspect your sus is fake and haven't gain much but then you say you say have gained 7lbs!!! 4 weeks is nothing and takes time to build up to full blood concentration. Your diet and training will not be in order, i can just guess with what you have written. I would just carry on with the planned cycle and see what happens.

    what are your stats?
    How long have you been training?
    Age?
    I am 30 and I started training again in September. I missed only two weeks, once to rest on vacation and once because i had the flu. I trained regularly from 17 to 24, almost 25. I then bought a restaurant and it ate up 4 years of my life. I started again and wanted to be where I was naturally before I stopped. I was 195lbs with 12% body fat.

    I posted my diet and workout above. Tell me what you think. I am a pretty regimented person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsxxr View Post

    religion fasting and bb'ing not work together.
    This I know but considering that lent is 6 weeks long out of a year of 52 its just something that I must do and have always done in my life.

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