My new cycle...

**roid_rage** · 05-28-2008, 09:23 AM

Hi guys, for those who dont know me (pretty much everyone haha), this is going to be my 4th. cycle... it's going to look like this...

I'm 28 years old, 5'7'' and 1.80 punds.

1-12 500 mg. Test e.
1-12 400 mg. Primobolan
9-14 50 mg. eod Winny
9-14 40 mg. oxandrolone. (i'm not quiet sure about using two 17aa at the same time)
2-14 50 mg. EOD anastrozole.

PCT
15 2500 hcg 20 mg. tamoxi/day
16 20 mg. tamoxi/day
17 2500 hcg 20 mg. tamoxi/day
18 20 mg. tamoxi/day

I'm not quiete sure about trowing in some clomid in the pct... what do you guys think? better to go with nolva alone or use clomid along with it?

**marcus300** · 05-28-2008, 11:39 AM

Primo wont do anything at 400mg per wk and the rest needs re-designing, what are your goals?

**legobricks** · 05-28-2008, 11:53 AM

Agreed, the primo would need to be upped.

Too many compounds for 1 cycle IMO, what are your goals of this? What does your past cycle history look like?

**roid_rage** · 05-28-2008, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Primo wont do anything at 400mg per wk and the rest needs re-designing, what are your goals?

What do you mean by re-desing?? could you please explain it better???

My goals are to bulk without too much of water retantion... that's why I do not put any deca in it. expecting to gain about 20 libs.

Prop is impossible to get downhere in my country.

May be I can get some Eq, not sure but I'll try.

If I get the Eq, I'll use it insted of the primo. at 600 mg./week.

do you guys think the oxa I should leave the oxa out???

How about if I up the dosis of primo to 600 mg.

My last two cylcles we

1-10 Cyp
7-12 Winny
1-6 40 mg. Oxa.

I've rest for about 8 mounths since the last one.

**marcus300** · 05-28-2008, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by roid_rage

What do you mean by re-desing?? could you please explain it better???

My goals are to bulk without too much of water retantion... that's why I do not put any deca in it. expecting to gain about 20 libs.

Prop is impossible to get downhere in my country.

May be I can get some Eq, not sure but I'll try.

If I get the Eq, I'll use it insted of the primo. at 600 mg./week.

do you guys think the oxa I should leave the oxa out???

How about if I up the dosis of primo to 600 mg.

My last two cylcles we

1-10 Cyp
7-12 Winny
1-6 40 mg. Oxa.

I've rest for about 8 mounths since the last one.

RE-designing means re-designing the cycle, nothing more.
Your after bulking so why use primo,var and winny?? forget these compounds they wont aid any kind of bulk IMHO, also if this is your 4th cycle you should really know what compounds suit bulking more. EQ is a weak drug and will not help with bulking IMHO unless your one of the guys who respond well to it or get some serious appetite increases from it.

I think you need to fully re-design your attack on bulking, also the bulking will be diet related.

**legobricks** · 05-28-2008, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

RE-designing means re-designing the cycle, nothing more.
Your after bulking so why use primo,var and winny?? forget these compounds they wont aid any kind of bulk IMHO, also if this is your 4th cycle you should really know what compounds suit bulking more. EQ is a weak drug and will not help with bulking IMHO unless your one of the guys who respond well to it or get some serious appetite increases from it.

I think you need to fully re-design your attack on bulking, also the bulking will be diet related.

I was waiting for you to say that.

And another thing to add, whether your cutting or bulking its all diet depicted. Many people depend on stacking a whole bunch of compounds together thinking the more compounds the more they will gain, sometimes choosing the wrong compounds as in this situation.

**roid_rage** · 05-28-2008, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

RE-designing means re-designing the cycle, nothing more.
Your after bulking so why use primo,var and winny?? forget these compounds they wont aid any kind of bulk IMHO, also if this is your 4th cycle you should really know what compounds suit bulking more. EQ is a weak drug and will not help with bulking IMHO unless your one of the guys who respond well to it or get some serious appetite increases from it.

I think you need to fully re-design your attack on bulking, also the bulking will be diet related.

well... pretty much because of the lack of steroids we have here... I can only get a hand on test (all but prop), primo, deca , winny and oxa, that's about it... When I said bulking, I mean lean bulking... i'm prone to water retantion, so deca is out of the question, with my last cycle I putted 22 punds, but I only kept like 12... ... So this time... I wanted to put another strong anabolic , and primo, winny and oxa are the only anabolics I can get, also Eq, but it's pretty hard to get the real thing...

Of course.. I know diet is the most important thing...