2nd cyle

[bobo0101]

I am currently starting week 8 of my first cycle. Everything is going great, strength gains are through the roof and Im holding zero water weight. I want to start planning my next cycle for this winter. Any comments about the proposed second cycle would be appreciated. Thanks

1st cycle is:
weeks 1-12 Test E: 500mgs wk
weeks 7-12 Winny 50mgs ed

Pct- nolva, clomid, and armidex


2nd cycle would be
weeks 1-16 test E: 500mgs wk
weeks 1-14 Deca 450mgs wk
weeks 1-4 Dbol 40mgs ed

Pct- nolva, clomid, and armidex

[marcus300]

Why extend the 2nd cycle by 4 weeks? more weeks doesnt mean more or better gains. I would wait till you have finished your first cycle and if thing have gone well........why change anything......stick with what worked first time around, in your own word "Everything is going great, strength gains are through the roof and Im holding zero water weight"

[bobo0101]

This cycle is a cutter and the next one I would like to bulk. I have gained very little size but have dropped about 5% bf. Im planning the next cycle around the deca. I have enough to run it for 14 weeks so I just extended the test two weeks beyond that. I am under the impression that the deca needed to ran longer than ten weeks to get the full benefits also. This is the longest cycle I would ever consider doing though.

[inky-e]

Your 2nd cycle seems ok to me. I would however run nolva and adex without clomid and also add hcg.IMO

[roid_rage]

You made a 12 weeker of test and winny, to lose 5% bf??? mmm I wouldnt say everything is going great....

[bobo0101]

You made a 12 weeker of test and winny, to lose 5% bf??? mmm I wouldnt say everything is going great....

well I weigh 260 so 5% is 13 pounds, but when I say lost 5% I mean I still weigh 260 but my body fat measures 5% less than it did before cycle and with about five weeks to go Im very happy with the results so far

[bmit]

you will want to run deca at least 12 weeks (10 absolute minimum) but 16 wks is pretty long for a 2nd cycle. but not a bad cycle at all

[roid_rage]

man.. 260?? how tall are you??? what's your bf% right now?

[bobo0101]

6'4''@ 13% bf, started at 18%, I just got off the scale and was 257lbs