Myth or fact?

**Wire50** · 05-30-2008, 04:18 PM

If you do one cycle of something like Test C for the first time, you will lose everything you gained after the cycle is over....

**stocky121** · 05-30-2008, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Wire50

If you do one cycle of something like Test C for the first time, you will lose everything you gained after the cycle is over....

myth with proper diet and pct you wont

**inky-e** · 05-30-2008, 04:51 PM

Agreed ^^^^

**Wire50** · 05-30-2008, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by stocky121

myth with proper diet and pct you wont

What exactly is pct

**inky-e** · 05-30-2008, 04:55 PM

Don't start any cycle till you learn about and actually have your pct planned and in hand.

**Big** · 05-30-2008, 04:59 PM

Before we go too far,
age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?

**IronMonkey** · 05-30-2008, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Wire50

What exactly is pct

POST-CYCLE THERAPY.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 05-30-2008, 05:09 PM

fact or myth:

Can you drink winny?

If I inject my penis, will it get bigger?

Thx guys!!

**Wire50** · 05-30-2008, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Big

Before we go too far,
age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?

I am not looking to do steroids , just been talking about it with a friend. We are about the same size and have both been lifting since we were in high school. I am 24, 6'0" tall and weigh 230. My body fat is about 12%. We both eat very healthy on a diet of 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body fat. Carb intake is about 300-400grams a day. He seems to think though that if you just take one cycle of steroids you will lose everything you gained if you stop. He claims that the only guys who gain from steroids long term are the ones who continue doing cycles.

**Big** · 05-30-2008, 05:59 PM

Many guys run a cycle of steroids , but don't have sufficient diet and training. In those cases, they puff up a bit then lose it all. That happens frequently, and that is mostly where that idea comes from.

**ZEUS3** · 05-30-2008, 06:16 PM

first cycle i was told by another member its the best cycle same as test e good diet and hard training and pct like hcg pregnyl 5000ius eod for a week and make sure you make the test last first like 2 weeks no gear just train realy hard and EAT good luck

**Wire50** · 05-30-2008, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Big

Many guys run a cycle of steroids, but don't have sufficient diet and training. In those cases, they puff up a bit then lose it all. That happens frequently, and that is mostly where that idea comes from.

So you are saying that if he maintained his diet and kept lifting he would not lose everything?

**Big** · 05-30-2008, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by ZEUS3

first cycle i was told by another member its the best cycle same as test e good diet and hard training and pct like hcg pregnyl 5000ius eod for a week and make sure you make the test last first like 2 weeks no gear just train realy hard and EAT good luck

He said he's not going to cycle, him and his friend were just having a hypothetical discussion. Also HCG alone is suppressive, and alone is not pct.

**Big** · 05-30-2008, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Wire50

So you are saying that if he maintained his diet and kept lifting he would not lose everything?

Yes, that is what I'm saying, but following the right kind of diet is difficult and expensive, that's where many fail.

**ZEUS3** · 05-30-2008, 06:19 PM

correct make sure hcg invoved

**Big** · 05-30-2008, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by ZEUS3

correct make sure hcg invoved

why?

**ZEUS3** · 05-30-2008, 06:22 PM

better gains after pct in next cycle i was 9 st 1 year ago what more can i say

**Wire50** · 05-30-2008, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Big

He said he's not going to cycle, him and his friend were just having a hypothetical discussion. Also HCG alone is suppressive, and alone is not pct.

Yes the discussion was hypothetical, but I must admit steroids are indeed intriguing. I know a friend who said he could get us something called Sutanon 250 I think it was. How would that do for a first cycle and what else would I take with it?

**Big** · 05-30-2008, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Wire50

Yes the discussion was hypothetical, but I must admit steroids are indeed intriguing. I know a friend who said he could get us something called Sutanon 250 I think it was. How would that do for a first cycle and what else would I take with it?

Take a bit of time and do a little research, use the search button and research "beginner cycles", "sustanon ", and take a lot of time to read about pct, there is an entire section of the board dedicated to it here:
http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/
read all the posts at the top, then read them again.
Also check the educational threads. Get a good basic knowledge base and then we can go from there.