First Cycle Test - Winnie - Trem

[Maverick_J8]

Weeks 1-10

Test C 500mg/wk

Weeks 8-12

Winny 50 ED

Weeks 12-16

PCT

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50
Aromasin 20-25mg/day for 4 weeks
Vit E 1000iu/day


Drink plenty of water and keep sodium low, you will not have a problem with bloat. Nolva keep to hand during cycle just incase.


Tren for a first cycle - No.

any advice I'll consider. only EDUCATED - and EXPERIENCE advice please nothing else.

You can't expect everything handed to you on a silver platter. You need to research more. And stop listening to "what you hear" and "what people said". Learn yourself.

Good luck

[200byjune]

13 weeks of winnie. r u mad??

[200byjune]

double

[200byjune]

So I've been reading the forums for along time now, along with other sites and underground forums. I've also been talking to a few good friends I've known for years for advice, but I some times what they say and what I see online contradict one another, so my question is......

For my first cycle I was gonna run dbol + test, but got some what seems like good advice "your a bulky guy you don't need the water weight" to sum it up.. so he suggested I run something like

1 - 20 weeks Test cyph
1-8 weeks Trem
8 - 20 weeks winnie oral

Im 26 , 5'11 215 - not sure of my body % but I know I need to drop some weight probably around 198 or so, basically cardio, clean my diet up, steam room because i enjoy it with my ipod and protien, vitamins and all basic stuff taken care of start next week. ( not the cycle but diet / cardio ) cycle is something I want to start though in about 3 weeks.

I wanted to know if that cycle looks good and if, so how much of each do you suggest ? 30 mg eod winnie ? 500mg week test ? etc etc...

THIS WILL BE MY FIRST AAS CYCLE and people always say don't do 1 at a time, but stack, so I want to get this right!!!

One last thing, Im guessing I should take some milk thistle / saw palleto / coq10 everyday along with some nolvadex ?

nolvadex run with cycle ?
start if i see a problem ?
or wait 2 weeks after last shot ?

any advice I'll consider. only EDUCATED - and EXPERIENCE advice please nothing else.

ok asshole wtf is your problem? it says 8-20 winnie

[200byjune]

and 40oz of water will not be enough. drink a minimum of a gallon a day. i do so on or off cycle

[200byjune]

and aimology. ur huge. very good base to start off of.

[gixxerboy1]

honest i would def change it up. No need for you to run a 20 week cycle. Also tren can have a lot of sides and its strong not really recomended for the first time. Also taking multiple things on the first time. Incase you have side effect or problems you really dont know what is causing them

[Lemonada8]

pesonally, i wouldnt run your cycle but the winnie...

u are lookin for the least amout of water weight, so run prop

this is what i would recommend

week 1-10 prop (75 or 100mg ED)
week 6-10 winny 50mg ED

PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50
Aromasin 20-25mg/day for 4 weeks
Vit E 1000iu/day

as for the no tren on first cycle... you have fresh receptors you will get plenty of gains w/ the test and winny... no need to use tren... tren is better when u have a couple of cycles under ur belt and your receptors arent as fresh...

nolva wont cure gyno, only letro can.... save it for PCT...

and water isnt enough... only 40oz... yeah not enough... winny will dry out joints so u wanna keep that h2o up...