Thread: a Newbie's first cycle questions
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06-05-2008, 02:30 PM #1New Member
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a Newbie's first cycle questions
I am about to start my first Cycle, done my research but i just thought to check with more experienced guys, i live in egypt, so steroids here are perfectly legal over the counter meds, so they are really easy to get.
i am going to do a 12 weeks cycle of testosterone 500 mg a week ( i've been told i don't need deca for my first cycle), Nolvadex 10 mg a day, for pct ill use Nolvadex 20 mg a day, clomid 50 mg a day for two weeks post cycle,
its a simple cycle but any comments will be welcomed
also for the teste should i use Sustanon or Primoteston (testosterone enanthate )
I am leaning toward Primoteston because it seems that Sustanon will need too frequent injections
And should I use Dianabol 20 mg a day for the first few week to accelerate muscle growth?
thanx guys
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06-05-2008, 03:08 PM #2
Age , height, weight ,training experience ?
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06-05-2008, 03:23 PM #3
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06-05-2008, 03:27 PM #4
stats?
seems like the basic bread and butter cycle, gains will be good if you are ready to be on cycle and your diet/training are in check
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06-05-2008, 04:40 PM #5New Member
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age 24/ training experience 2 years continous training/height 5.9/ weight 235 pounds
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i wouldnt recomend the dbol ..lets see how his body reacts to the test 1st
what kind of test are you running?
also i would strech the pct out longer than 2 weeks
damn...must feel good living in a country where gear is leagal
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06-05-2008, 04:57 PM #7
nothing wrong with dbol as a kickstart for a first cycle.
pct should be 4 weeks minimum.
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06-05-2008, 05:00 PM #8
dbol and test would be good.. i think.. just make sure you keep ur injections 2x a week like mon thursday.. to keep blood lvs more stable... and split ur dbol tabs up through out the day because it has a short life.
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06-05-2008, 05:06 PM #9Banned
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try 30 mg Dbol man .and liquidex insted of nolva
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06-05-2008, 05:13 PM #10New Member
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thanx guys i will stretch the pct to 4 weeks , probably go with test enanthate , and yes its great to live in a country where this stuff is legalized as you know u won't get screwed in the black market buying fakes, cheap 2, but remember that the potential for abuse by idiots is great.
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06-05-2008, 05:26 PM #11
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nothing is wrong with dbol ..but a sa precaution i wouldnt advise him to do it b/c if something happens he dosent know if its the test or the dbol thats messin him up
a test only cycle is a good 1st cycle...and if he does want a kick start i personaly would recomend tbol..its less toxic and holds less water than dbol
but thats jus my opinion
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06-05-2008, 06:16 PM #13New Member
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btw, i wrote a test only thing a while ago if you want me to pm it to you or whatever, alot of the info you already know but has stuff about getting rid of gyno and different pcts and diet stuff if you want to read over it, just a thought[/QUOTE]
thnx that would be great, removed the price by the way
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06-05-2008, 06:48 PM #14
5'9" and 235, what is your body fat%?
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06-05-2008, 08:07 PM #15New Member
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last time i measured my body fat percentage a couple of months ago it was 16%
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06-05-2008, 08:31 PM #16
Test Beginner cycle info
here, i'll lay out some stuff for you,
first thing, you need to get your diet in check, here is some threads on cutting, lean bulking and pure bulking to give you some info, but you need to post your diet for critiqueing, your wasting your money otherwise
Diet
UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...
UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...
Appetite For Construction
http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/calories/calories.html
only when you have your diet down should you think about cycling, a beginner cycle should look like this
1-12 test e 500mg/week
1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)
take your test injections 3.5 days apart, like monday morning and thursday evening
split your dbol up throughout the day, this will keep your blood levels stable, which means less sides and more gains
if you take the dbol, supplement with liv52 to help you liver cope with breaking down the dbol
btw, here are the profiles on the AS you will be using so read them and get to know the stuff your putting in your body
Test Enth
Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Testosterone Enanthate
Dianabol
Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)
Next is your pct, which should begin two weeks after your last test injection and should be a phneedo's pct, whats that you ask? here it is
Pheendo's PCT
Pheedno's PCT
while your at it read this one as well for future cycles
Anthony Roberts PCT
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758
Now for some other important stuff, you need to have some arimidex on hand in case you start getting water retention or gyno, so get some, in fact, read this thread 3x before you start your cycle as it will tell you....
All You Need To Know About Gyno
All you need to know about GYNO.
there ya go, good luck and great gains, anything else just ask
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06-05-2008, 08:52 PM #17Senior Member
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What do you know Phate posted links, hmmm.......
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06-06-2008, 01:58 PM #18New Member
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06-07-2008, 05:09 PM #20
it was 16% bro
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OTC test, man i am jealous
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