why would some of you guys prefere long esters such as test e deca tren e which takes 5 to 7 weeks to kick in, when you could have fast acting gear such as tren a test p where u could start to see results soon as the 1st week, i now theirs more injections that not to much of a problem, and i now with long esters u can frontload or take an oral to start gains sooner but why would you want to do that for, dont flame me guys just trying to learn more.