best cycle for Strength and Speed

[Bulldog1115]

190 lbs
5 foot 9
12% Bf
BB training for 4 years just making my way into powerlifting

what is the best cycle for a powerlifter?

Goals are increase of strength {bigtime} and speed. Along with gains maybe 10 lbs and decrease bf to about 9-10 %.

Diet will be lower carb days for 4 days and higher for 3!

thinking of compounds such as OBV any form of TEST {prop}, tren , anavar , dbols, deca , eq and HGH. any more suggestions!

[NATE0406]

age??
cycle exp??

[Bulldog1115]

diet macros r 2500cal/200p/100c/75f
2500cal/180/200c/50f

foods are chicken, salad, steak, eggs, oats, milk , baked potatoes, brown rice, and fruits and broccolii and asparagus along with the occasional tuna and when i can some pasta!

[Bulldog1115]

ive used in the past Test Enth and Eq twice and a Dbols only cycle {which sucked i jumped from 180 lbs to 200 lbs and when i was done was back down to 180 lol}

[NATE0406]

age?

[Bulldog1115]

o sorry lol .. im 21 gunna be 22 very soon

[Bulldog1115]

thinking of this cycle:
1-3 Test Prop 100 mg/eod {300mg/w}
1-3 Test Enthanate 250 mg/w
3-7 Test Enthante 500 mg/w
3-6 Tren Ace 100mg/w {300 mg/w}

Have my reasons for this cycle being so short

[NATE0406]

whats the point of using enth at all. i would just run the prop and tren for 6-7 weeks @ 100mgs/eod.

[Bulldog1115]

b/c ill get sick of pinning eod the prop and tren .. plus i really liked the gains off enth and on top of it i already have a bottle at home so mise well use it

[NATE0406]

well if you are going to stick to that then i would keep the dosage the same for the enth. i see what you are trying to do by offsetting the enth with prop in the first 3 weeks but considering that the prop will already be out of your system before the enth peaks i would shot 500mgs ew. jmo

[Bulldog1115]

thanks .. but is this cycle good enough to increase strength and speed and along with maybe decrease bf?

[Bulldog1115]

Anyone ... Plz help from vets?

[NATE0406]

yeah it should be a good cycle. if i where personally running it i would do one of two things.
weeks 1-7 prop 100mgs/eod
weeks 1-7 tren a 100mgs/eod

or

weeks 1-3 prop 100mgs eod
weeks 1-7 enth 250mgs ew
weeks 1-7 tren a 100mgs eod.

you will get the results you want from the tren. i would just run a small dose of test.

[Bulldog1115]

ic ic ... i mite go with your second option...any other compounds to increase speed and strength or is that good enough?

[NATE0406]

that should do it.

[Bulldog1115]

thnxz nate ..i like your sophisticated approach!

[Big]

yeah it should be a good cycle. if i where personally running it i would do one of two things.
weeks 1-7 prop 100mgs/eod
weeks 1-7 tren a 100mgs/eod

or

weeks 1-3 prop 100mgs eod
weeks 1-7 enth 250mgs ew
weeks 1-7 tren a 100mgs eod.

you will get the results you want from the tren. i would just run a small dose of test.

I like option 1^

[Bulldog1115]

ok .. im just gunan save the enth for the winter bulk...thnxz guys ...should i see increases in strength and speed?

[Big]

ok .. im just gunan save the enth for the winter bulk...thnxz guys ...should i see increases in strength and speed?

strength yes, speed I can't really say, I cant remember the last time I tried to do anything fast lol.

[Bulldog1115]

lmaoooooo ...yah well im just focusing on my basic lifts:
Bench Press also Incline
Clean and Snatch
Deadlift
Push press DB and BB
Front squats
Chin ups and pull ups

Four times a week I will do sprint training with a Parachute and Weighted Vest

Will these compounds assist alot? and anything esle i should add? How would HGH fit into this cycle and will it work for me {remember im 21}

[skinnykenney]

keep it simple to start out!.....try
anavar and clenbuterol would be my first choice!
winny and clenbuterol 2nd choice
tren acetate and clenbuterol 3rd choice

[NATE0406]

keep it simple to start out!.....try
anavar and clenbuterol would be my first choice!
winny and clenbuterol 2nd choice
tren acetate and clenbuterol 3rd choice

whatttttttttttt....
tren a and clen huh...

[dd0316]

keep it simple to start out!.....try
anavar and clenbuterol would be my first choice!
winny and clenbuterol 2nd choice
tren acetate and clenbuterol 3rd choice

pretty shitty advice
the guy wants to GAIN 10lbs, not lose 10 and harden up. Powerlifters are usually pretty bulky, winny and clen , especially without test would be useless and painful on the joints

take the optoin 2, i like it

[Bulldog1115]

skinnykenny you offically suspened for 14 days from this forum with that post!..WTf r u thinking! in fact r u even thinking? acually do u even have the capabilties to think? how bout this, you keep it simple and stay off this forum ..and better yet wack your head agaisnt a computer screen and punch yourself in the nuts 30 times as hard as you can!

Get LOST

[dd0316]

whatttttttttttt....
tren a and clen huh...

this is y ppl should read b4 they post

damn i sound like a bitter asshole tonite...must b 1 of those days

(THAT WASNT DIRECTED AT YOU NATE)

[NATE0406]

this is y ppl should read b4 they post

damn i sound like a bitter asshole tonite...must b 1 of those days

haha

[Bulldog1115]

that guy is an absolute ass clown in the purest form

[Teras]

lmaoooooo ...yah well im just focusing on my basic lifts:
Bench Press also Incline
Clean and Snatch
Deadlift
Push press DB and BB
Front squats
Chin ups and pull ups

Four times a week I will do sprint training with a Parachute and Weighted Vest

Will these compounds assist alot? and anything esle i should add? How would HGH fit into this cycle and will it work for me {remember im 21}

Sprint training 4 times a week, that's too much imo. Just do a dynamic day, Squat with chains or bands, sled pulls sprints (or parachute runs), and overhead throws for example. Try to keep it simple and short for maximum speed and power gains. Clean and snatch are awesome lifts but clean pulls and snatch pulls are equally explosive and less taxing since you don't drop under the bar. You can add some before or after your deadlift.