considering a few things

[boDAWG]

hey guys ive been cutting for the past few months trying to get my bf% down from 18%, im finally down to about 14% and am considering a few cycles

stats:
21 yrs old
6'1''
235lbs
14% BF
been lifting for a couple of years now
NO previous cycles
diet in check (following milos sarcev's diet plan)

goal:
put on quality hard muscle while keeping BF% low


which cycle?
opetion #1: wks 1-7 test p @ 200mg EOD
wks 1-7 tren A @ 100mg EOD

option # 2: wks 1-10 test e @ 500mg a week
wks 3-7 tren a @ 75mg eod

option # 3: wks 1-10 test e @ 500mg a week

option # 4: wks 1-7 test p @ 600mg a week 200mg EOD


let me know

[redz]

Most will tell you that Tren is a harsh steroid especially for a first time user. I suggest the test e 500mg/week split into 2 injections each week. You will have good gains as long as your diet and training are in check.

[Stoneco|d]

ya i am on my 1st cycle on test e 500 mg/week with winny 50mg ed for last 6 weeks. Tren is too strong for a beginner, I've read alot. You won't know how your body will react. Plus you will need a PCT.

[PT]

if this is your first cycle then just use the test. if your really want to you can throw something like winny in but i would stay away from tren . you can cut and stay hard on any steroid you want as long as you keep your estrogen down, have a clean diet and do alot of cardio

[boDAWG]

ya i am on my 1st cycle on test e 500 mg/week with winny 50mg ed for last 6 weeks. Tren is too strong for a beginner, I've read alot. You won't know how your body will react. Plus you will need a PCT.

yeah, but i'll need a PCT with any cycle.

[boDAWG]

if this is your first cycle then just use the test. if your really want to you can throw something like winny in but i would stay away from tren. you can cut and stay hard on any steroid you want as long as you keep your estrogen down, have a clean diet and do alot of cardio

i really like prop more than e. do you think a prop only cycle would be as effective?

[redz]

Yes Prop would be a good choice too but dont forget you will be injecting alot more often atleast EOD.

[boDAWG]

ya i am on my 1st cycle on test e 500 mg/week with winny 50mg ed for last 6 weeks. Tren is too strong for a beginner, I've read alot. You won't know how your body will react. Plus you will need a PCT.

how far are you into your cycle? what type of results do you have so far?

[solid90062]

PCT is neccesary for your cycle unless you want to lose everything you gained

[boDAWG]

PCT is neccesary for your cycle unless you want to lose everything you gained

i know?

[solid90062]

yeah, but i'll need a PCT with any cycle.

Sorry thought you asked a question here.

[QuadPower]

i really like prop more than e. do you think a prop only cycle would be as effective?

Not trying to start flame wars, but if you haven't done any previous cycles, how do you know you like prop more than e?

[boDAWG]

Not trying to start flame wars, but if you haven't done any previous cycles, how do you know you like prop more than e?

1)first of all id get more test,
2)second it acts faster,
3)leaves my body faster,
4)it would be a shorter cycle
5)i can obtain it easier
6)its way cheaper

[Stoneco|d]

how far are you into your cycle? what type of results do you have so far?

On Week 11, gained around 25lbs. Got stronger, a lot leaner and no side effects whatsoever so far. Well I sweat like shitload but that's normal.

[TJM7275]

Dude, run a straight Test cycle for your first one... You cant go wrong and I think most will agree its the best thing for a begginer. Good Luck Bro

[burnin69]

i think the eod shots for a first cycle might be a little to much. Not to mention the propionic ester tends to be pretty painful on the injection site. Test enth or cyp will give great results with less pain and fewer injections.

[boDAWG]

Dude, run a straight Test cycle for your first one... You cant go wrong and I think most will agree its the best thing for a begginer. Good Luck Bro

test e or p?

[redz]

test e or p?

Your choice I would suggest Test E but thats just me. I rather have less injections.

[Stoneco|d]

I would use test e because you only pin twice a week. If you want you can use dbol to kickstart it till test kicks in.