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    mickqc is offline New Member
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    Question help with first cycle

    hi everyone this is my first thread i hope somebody can give me some advise
    i have been training on and off for 20 years and have made up my mine to finally give steroids a go
    after some research i was thinking off a 12 wk coure of
    200-400mg test cyp
    and for the first 6 weeks of this 30mg of diannabol
    with some nolvadex thrown in somewhere maybe last 8 weeks and 4 weeks post cycle
    my legs have always lagged behind my upper body even though i train them harder and longer (always had very thin legs as a kid)
    would they still lag behing even after this cycle
    any input would be very much appreciated

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    You need to post your stats. Age, weight, height, bf%. Most people would recommend a 500mg per week of test, excluding the d-bol for your first cycle.

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    You cycle looks good, IMHO u dont need the DBol yet...wait till next cycle...but if you insist on it, go for it. Depending on your stats...(unless ur little) be more towards the 400mg and front load it. ie 800mg/ first week...Also I dont recommend nolva during your unless you feel signs of gyno...some estrogen is important yet too much as we know is not good. Thats why IMHO just do the TEST CYP...if its ur first cycle...you will love it!!!

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    stats

    dont know my body fat but age 46 height 5 ft 10` weight 13 stone dead
    my legs are my weak point though
    cheers for help

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    nolvadex on its own

    considering its my first cycle and im only doing 400mg of test cyp will nolvadex on its own do or will i need some arimidex or clomid for PCT.
    if nolvadex on its own, will 30mg a day for 4 weeks straight after last injection do or should i wait the required 18 days after last inj
    seem to get loads of different opinions on pct

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    well test e and c are both long acting esters. Your waiting 18days to hit the half life of the test so yes i would definately wait for it. A common pct is nolva and clomid. because this is your first cycle i wouldn't take any chances and just run em both. 30mgs ed of nolva and 50mgs of clomid should be enough. I've heard anything over 50mgs of clomid isn't neccesary and is just overkill. Can anyone comment on that b4 i post this in the pct section?

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    Thumbs up ok

    Quote Originally Posted by jc95605 View Post
    well test e and c are both long acting esters. Your waiting 18days to hit the half life of the test so yes i would definately wait for it. A common pct is nolva and clomid. because this is your first cycle i wouldn't take any chances and just run em both. 30mgs ed of nolva and 50mgs of clomid should be enough. I've heard anything over 50mgs of clomid isn't neccesary and is just overkill. Can anyone comment on that b4 i post this in the pct section?
    everything you just typed I have heard!

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    nolva and clomid

    how long do tou think i should run them for
    do i need an AI

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    I'd go 500 cyp for 12 weeks

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    mickqc is offline New Member
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    it is my first cycle
    and just 20mg nolva and 50mg clomid for 4 weeks after

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