1st timer

**wickid1111** · 06-12-2008, 02:40 PM

got a buncha arimidex started taking 1/4 cc a day yesterday planin on pokin myself for the 1st time in 2 days.

this is what i got to start me out

Arimidex 30ml

Trenbolone Acetate
five 10ml vials

Masteron
five 10ml vials

23 years old
6'2 185 lbs
average build

how much should i take to start and how offten? should i take them together or on different days. any advice welcome! thanks guys/gals

**jstraw428** · 06-12-2008, 02:53 PM

Why would you be taking a AI, you are not even going to be taking anything that aromatizes.......I can already tell you need to do some more research about what you are getting ready to do.....WHERES THE TEST??????

**wickid1111** · 06-12-2008, 02:58 PM

well this is kinda my reserch im doing alot of reading too but yea i was hoping to get feedback from you guys. i know very little about this stuff. should i not be taking the arimidex ?

**edmen2** · 06-12-2008, 02:58 PM

first off you dont have enough gear 2nd u should think about adding some test with that tren unless u plan on having no sex. and third put that gear in a drawer forget about it and stay here and research for about a good solid month.

**redz** · 06-12-2008, 02:59 PM

I hope your not too into sex.....you will have no sex drive with those compounds also Tren Ace needs to be shot ed or eod at the very least. You need test and forget about the compounds you have. Test only is a better first cycle you should have researched more.

**wickid1111** · 06-12-2008, 03:01 PM

well im glad i posted haha. i will go look up more websites. so did i waste my $$$????

**Batlin MD** · 06-12-2008, 03:02 PM

If you're never done steroids before dont start with Tren /Mast as your first cycle, that pretty heavy. Try a test only cycle, something long ester like Enanthate .

**edmen2** · 06-12-2008, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by wickid1111

well im glad i posted haha. i will go look up more websites. so did i waste my $$$????

dont lookup websites everything you need u will find here. most sites are just trying to sell a product. i would love to see u with the dreaded tren cough wondering if your going to die in your bathroom. use the search engine and alot of questions.

**jstraw428** · 06-12-2008, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by wickid1111

Arimidex 30ml

Trenbolone Acetate
five 110ml vials

Masteron
five 110ml vials

does he hav 550ml of tren ... and 550ml or Masteron........or did he mean that is the mgs.......

**redz** · 06-12-2008, 03:05 PM

so did i waste my $$$????

No save those compounds for a later cycle. Get soem Test E or Test C and run 500mg/week split into two injections per week.

**wickid1111** · 06-12-2008, 03:06 PM

k

**wickid1111** · 06-12-2008, 03:07 PM

"does he hav 550ml of tren ... and 550ml or Masteron ........or did he mean that is the mgs......."

50ml and 50ml

**jstraw428** · 06-12-2008, 03:15 PM

That is quite a lot of gear........I suggest saving it for many future cycles.......Stick with a simple test cycle for your first......

**wickid1111** · 06-12-2008, 03:23 PM

woooah my bad im sry i have five 10 ml vials of each sorry my brain aint workin right now lol

**wickid1111** · 06-12-2008, 03:31 PM

k well reading more i think i will continue cuting and get test for my 1st cycle like u guys say.. what kind should i go with? i have access to alot of stuff so i can find w/e

**jstraw428** · 06-12-2008, 03:34 PM

You can cut on any type of test.....it all comes down to your diet......For a first cycle i would stick with an Enathate.......

**wickid1111** · 06-12-2008, 03:35 PM

should i take the Arimidex with that???

**redz** · 06-12-2008, 03:39 PM

only take arimidex if gyno sypmtoms apear. It will hinder gains if you take it the whole cycle. Arimidex is also good for pct.

**edmen2** · 06-12-2008, 03:52 PM

most first timers go with test cyp or enth cause u only have to shoot twice a week. but if u wanna cut and can handle everyday shots i would go with test prop.

**jstraw428** · 06-12-2008, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by edmen2

most first timers go with test cyp or enth cause u only have to shoot twice a week. but if u wanna cut and can handle everyday shots i would go with test prop.

I will say it again, you can cut using any type of test.....your end results, will be determined by your diet......Most people just choose to use prop because of less water retention, but test is test....

**edmen2** · 06-12-2008, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by jstraw428

I will say it again, you can cut using any type of test.....your end results, will be determined by your diet......Most people just choose to use prop because of less water retention, but test is test....

test prop gives me less of that moonface appearance. a jay leno chin doesnt look good when your trying to cut.

**Big** · 06-12-2008, 05:10 PM

Before we go any farther, how about some stats?
age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?

**200byjune** · 06-12-2008, 05:15 PM

big hes 6'2 185. have u even lifted before?

**jstraw428** · 06-12-2008, 05:16 PM

that is pretty skinny......I am wondering the same thing......

**wickid1111** · 06-13-2008, 08:46 AM

not much body fat like i said iv been cutting. came down from just over 200 in january. not big haha so thats why i want to bulk up with a cycle. i used to lift back in grade 8-about 11 then stoped the last few years and just got back into it bout 8-9 months ago. im on a good cutting diet but ready to start putting on mass. used creatine and shit like that back in the day but never anything liek this.

so with the mast and tren are u saying it wont work to put on size? or are you saying its too powerfull for a 1st timer?

**jstraw428** · 06-13-2008, 02:09 PM

Tren is definately not a beginner drug......it is one of the most powerful compounds you can put in your body.....Look for a simple test cycle, and maybe some dbol as a kickstart.....

But if i were you, i would do a lot more research, before i started using AAS....