Test E, Deca, Tren A, Winny

[Saunacrank]

Lean Bulking Cycle. Let me know what ya'll think. Yes I'm very aware of compounded Progesteronic sides of Deca/Tren usage together. Running Clomid, Nolva, And HCG for PCT.

Test E 750mg/wk Weeks 1-12, Deca 300mg/wk Weeks 1-10, Tren A 400-500mg/wk Weeks 3-12, Winny 50mg/ed Weeks 4-12. Winny is just to keep of the bloat hopefully. Might run Arimidex also. What does everyone think of the tren level? Do 500, or maybe only 350? Not quite sure on that one.

5'8", 185, 8%. Diet is 4150 Cals a day, all clean. Doing an hour of Cardio ED, Lifting 3 days on, 1 off, 2 on, 1 off, 3 on, 1off, 2 on.......


Thanks for any input. If your gonna flame, just go somewhere else. This board is meant to help others, not to flame.

[redz]

Have you cycled before? Personally i wouldnt use tren and deca together also you have mentioned absolutely nothing to handle the possible prolactin sides.....you need some caber or bromo.

[Saunacrank]

so I can get bromo, but I have a min order amount its no where near. What are the prolactin sides I'm facing here?

[Saunacrank]

yes done a cycle of Test E, Deca, and Dbol before. Loved the Dbol, hated how it instantly made my face fat, lol. I'm just taking the low dose of deca to counter the joint dryness from Winny.

[Saunacrank]

I won't be heart broken if I can do without it though, I just figured I have so much of it lying around why not ya know? Anyone else care to chime in on cutting out the deca? I'm only on week one so taking since Im only one shot in on it I can take it out easily

[NATE0406]

i agree.... cut out the deca. save it for another cycle.

[Saunacrank]

So if I do test at 750, tren at 500, and winny at 50mg ed will i be able to gain some lean mass, or just cut? Not really looking for more then 10 pounds

[NATE0406]

So if I do test at 750, tren at 500, and winny at 50mg ed will i be able to gain some lean mass, or just cut? Not really looking for more then 10 pounds

bro that cycle will give you all you want and more. you will prolly gain closer to 15-20 pounds than 10. and with a proper diet and pct you should be very lean.

[Saunacrank]

thought winny made it really hard to gain weight?

[Saunacrank]

..... anywho, cut out the deca, so just running Test and Tren now, waiting for my winny to arrive so I can run it weeks 4-12.

[intensityfreak]

i think you dont need too run that high of dosage, espically on the test. everythings look straight besides cut out the deca.

[stpete]

Lean Bulking Cycle. Let me know what ya'll think. Yes I'm very aware of compounded Progesteronic sides of Deca/Tren usage together. Running Clomid, Nolva, And HCG for PCT.

Test E 750mg/wk Weeks 1-12, Deca 300mg/wk Weeks 1-10, Tren A 400-500mg/wk Weeks 3-12, Winny 50mg/ed Weeks 4-12. Winny is just to keep of the bloat hopefully. Might run Arimidex also. What does everyone think of the tren level? Do 500, or maybe only 350? Not quite sure on that one.

5'8", 185, 8%. Diet is 4150 Cals a day, all clean. Doing an hour of Cardio ED, Lifting 3 days on, 1 off, 2 on, 1 off, 3 on, 1off, 2 on.......


Thanks for any input. If your gonna flame, just go somewhere else. This board is meant to help others, not to flame.

Your cycle needs a lot of work. First, you're wasting the test e. Secondly, you want the test to run longer than the tren. Deca needs to be thrown in the garbage. Get rid of the winny as well. Here's a decent cycle for you: If you can handle it, and it's not your 1st, 2nd, or 3rd cycle. Test e @ 600mgs per week, with 150mgs of tren ace. The cycle is 12 weeks, with tren being ran weeks 5-9.
This is a good cycle. Try it.

[james21]

Your cycle needs a lot of work. First, you're wasting the test e. Secondly, you want the test to run longer than the tren. Deca needs to be thrown in the garbage. Get rid of the winny as well. Here's a decent cycle for you: If you can handle it, and it's not your 1st, 2nd, or 3rd cycle. Test e @ 600mgs per week, with 150mgs of tren ace. The cycle is 12 weeks, with tren being ran weeks 5-9.
This is a good cycle. Try it.

what are you talking about ?

[Saunacrank]

stpete, read a book or something, lol

[Saunacrank]

oh and after I read his post,...I ran to the garbage and threw away all the deca I have, just so ya'll know....

[Saunacrank]

by the way Im already noticing I'm a little more lean at week four, could be the cardio though. And I havent even been eating that much, more like 3100 clean cals a day, well maybe its like 4000....but I dont like to count shakes, I just feel like you don't get near as much from them as say chicken breast or a steak.

[Booz]

Your cycle needs a lot of work. First, you're wasting the test e. Secondly, you want the test to run longer than the tren. Deca needs to be thrown in the garbage. Get rid of the winny as well. Here's a decent cycle for you: If you can handle it, and it's not your 1st, 2nd, or 3rd cycle. Test e @ 600mgs per week, with 150mgs of tren ace. The cycle is 12 weeks, with tren being ran weeks 5-9.
This is a good cycle. Try it.

why is this a waste of test?

[Booz]

i agree.... cut out the deca. save it for another cycle.

why cut the deca out??
nothing wrong with running dec and tren together at all,as long as you are covered for the "possible" and i mean possible sides??

[Booz]

how many cycles have you ran mate?

[Saunacrank]

This is number 3, kinda late now to throw the deca back in, i only used it for week one, tomorrow is the start of week 4

[Schuldiner]

Since it's late, keep it fo the next one then.

[Saunacrank]

Should have listened to myself and kept it, but its cool Ive never run Tren by itself with test so Id like to see how the sides are. Cus I know Deca/Test=arm acne for me. And by the way, my overlapping shots are a bitch, I hate 3 cc's at once, my whole lower back gets sore

[Saunacrank]

What should I keep on hand for possible sides next time when I run test/tren/deca? And what would the main sides be?

[mx3]

I personally love deca and tren together. You should have caber or bromo on hand for increased pgr and I personally always have some letro on hand too. you wont get shutdown more from using both a low dose of either will shut you down completely anyways, their is no degree of shutdown you are or you arent. And the increased pgr is not cumulative so it would be like running a higher dose of one of the compounds.