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    Newb - Looking for some advice

    Hey guys - my first (and most likely not last) post on this site.
    I read enough posts to know the basic rules of this forum.

    A little about myself...

    I have never used anything stronger than creatine in the past but am looking for a little boost. I am currently 180, 6'3. I am not looking to get huge, just get rid of the gut and get up to around 185 by the end of the summer.

    My friend recommended getting win, which I plan on doing. I was going to go on for 5 weeks, then off for 5 weeks. Any thoughts?

    Food plan:
    Surf
    breakfast: protein shake, cereal
    snack: oatmeal
    lunch: sandwich
    snack: protein bar
    Lift
    dinner: chicken/vegi
    snack: protein shake

    I was planning on lifting 4 days / week. Surfing 5 days/week and taking 2 days off.

    Thoughts?

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    You forgot your age. BTW, Welcome.

    You need to do some more reading, but first slap the banshee out of your friend. Please, don't listen to him.

    Also, check out the diet forum before you do anything else. Your eating habits are bad bad bad.

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    There are lots of winny only cycles, but you need to run some sort of test with it, imo.

    Also, your cycle plans are really bad.

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    Wow...I thought the diet aspect of my post was the best part...I guess I have some reading to do.

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    Oh...I am 24 y/o male

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    With that diet you might gain a solid couple pounds of water weight--and that's all!

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    Winny is not the shredder that people think it is. I think the best thing you can do right now bro is hit the diet forum and start their. In weight training diet is the key bro. Get that right, make sure your training is on point and that gut of yours will disappear. After awhile think about gear... Whats your age???

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    Thanks guys. I'll browse the diet forum and try to put together a solid eating plan then take it from there.

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    Hey all - I've been browsing the site for a few hours a day for the past week and have some more questions for you all.

    I know a lot of people do not like this person, but I am considering following Mick Hart's training guide for his son (The Chris Report). I will follow the Diet, Lifting regimen, and cycle I figured since it is my first cycle. I want to keep the doses low and focus mainly on my strict diet.

    I went ahead and ordered some needles/syringes online today. I am headed over to Tijuana next week to check out some gear. My main research the next few weeks will be to ensure I am getting real stuff. I found a good site that shows a lot of images of fake vs real stuff that I will be analyzing this week.

    I figured I would put the gear in my crotch area / tapped to my leg when I walk across the border.

    I know that I touched on a lot of subjects tonight, but I wanted to get people's thoughts on my plan.

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    Dont think there is a way to test it. They can fake everything now. So no way to know if it is real till you inject it or a friend took it before you. Scary stuff

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    Hey everyone - it has been 6 months a figured I would send some updates -

    1. I never went to tijiuana. I was able to get my hands on a legit source.

    2. I did a dbol only cycle (i know, I was an idiot). I went from 180 - 198 in about 8 weeks....then proceeded to lose most of it. I am back to around 186. I should have read this forum more before I started.

    3. I was able to get my diet in check after reading the forums like a mad man and have a good base to start with on my next cycle.

    Next cycle plans:
    TEST E 250mg 1 - 11 (every 4th day)
    DECA 200mg 1 - 10 (every 4th day)
    Dbol 1 - 4 (20mg, 20, 30, 40)

    PCT
    Nolv 1 - 15
    Clomid - 12 - 15

    Thoughts?

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    cycle looks better than what you did before for sure.. id keep the dbol dose constant..
    pct wait 2 weeks after the test.. then the clomid and nolvadex .
    you could use the nolvadex through the cycle but might consider running an AI instead.
    say .25 adex/ldex ed..
    what doses you plan on using for the clomid and nolvadex pct?

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    I can get my hands on some l-dex, however do you think that I would be okay without it?

    Planning on taking 20mg/day of nolv the entire cycle and then the following breakdown for clomid 2 weeks after injections:
    Day1 300mg
    Day 2-11 100mg
    Day12-21 50mg

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    yeah, an AI isnt a necessity..i just prefer to run it..
    that 300mg of clomid can be rough..use to run that protocol myself..
    now i just use 100mg clomid and 20mg nolvadex for 30 days..

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    thanks dude for the advice / confirmation. Looking forward to this cycle! I'll let you know how it goes.

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    hey not a problem brutha..

    peace

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    Hey guys - about to order some needles. Let me know if I am on the right track here:

    Needle size: 23 gauge X 1
    10cc Syringe

    I ordered satchels so I was going to withdrawl the contents of the satchel into a syrynge. I would then just change the needle for each injection and inject the correct dosages per use.

    Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagles_fan View Post
    Hey guys - about to order some needles. Let me know if I am on the right track here:

    Needle size: 23 gauge X 1
    10cc Syringe

    I ordered satchels so I was going to withdrawl the contents of the satchel into a syrynge. I would then just change the needle for each injection and inject the correct dosages per use.

    Any thoughts?
    bad idea. in my opinion you need a new syringe and needle for each shot.
    I would transfer the contents to a sealed sterile vial and draw each shot from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    bad idea. in my opinion you need a new syringe and needle for each shot.
    I would transfer the contents to a sealed sterile vial and draw each shot from there.
    truth and a half...big FTW!

    doing the "changing just the needle, same syringe" is a bad idea....

    leaves you open to HUGE risks of infection and contaminating your gear...

    your diet in your initial post is horrible...

    as for winny only - bad idea...it wont really do what you think it will. diet+cardio will make 100x better changes in your over all physique than winny alone ever could...

    it's good to see you researching before you just "jump in"..so many people take advice from guys at the gym, that truly know nothing....

    best of luck on your goals!

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    Thanks guys - I'll get some 30CC vials. I did make the mistake of "jumping in" with my dbol only cycle...big waste of time. That initial post about winny and my shitty diet were from 6 months ago.

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    Results / advice on new cycle

    Fellas - last cycle went really well. Went from 185 - 200 (well around 205 when i got lax with my diet). I'm back to around 193...kept a good portion of my gains.

    I am going to do a new cycle soon - looking for your advice.
    Goal: cut bodyfat / keep muscle
    current bf: ~12%

    injecting every Monday / Wednesday / Friday

    Cycle (10 weeks)
    Test E: 125MG
    Winstrol : 25MG
    Equipose: 125MG

    PCT: same as before

    QUESTION: my equipose and test will not arrive for another 2 weeks. Is it okay to start with just Winstrol now?

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    bump!

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    dont touch your winstrol right now are you taking it for the full 10 weeks , i dunno what the others will say i know a few people who have taken wini in small doses through out there cycle and have gained a realy hard look and with you taking equipose your gonna look like your carved out of rock

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