Still got gyno with PCT

Hey guys I did my first cycle around may consisting of test c at 500mg a week and I started noticing change in my nips half way thru but everyone said its nothing major and that its probably water. I never had a lump under my nipple, never had an itch or any of the signs of gyno. Now I got done with my pct a while ago and it seems that it got worse than before. Pct consisted of nolva and clomid. Right now I started letro for only 5 days so far but it does not seem to be helping. Check out my pics do you guys think that I'm totally phuked or I should just hit the cardio everyday,which i have been skipping alot, and get my diet better. P.S. started gaining alot of fat in my mid section due to absence from gym due to shoulder injury.

pretty hard to tell from your pics there if you have gyno or not.

how old are you and what are your stats?

how long did you wait after your test cycle before starting PCT

test c is a lonog ester so you need to wait around 3 weeks before starting pct

if you did pct immediately the test will still be in your system

i wouldnt worry the letro will get rid of it but it takes a while to kick in

ps gyno has nothing to do with water, diet, or cardio - its to do with estrogen levels which are high having been on cycle

My bad i meant to say i ended my cycle in april and and got done with pct in may. I did wait three weeks to start pct. Im 23 years old, my weight was 185 but since i stopped working out due to shoulder injury i lost about ten pounds.

I dont think its gyno. From what I see its a lil bit of fat. Also came to that conclusion by the upper,inner part of your bicep which also seems to hold a bit of fat. Start a cutting cycle or get your diet or cardio goin and it should clear up.

I agree that it just looks like fat.

God that just made my day. I guess it just kinda throws me off because i looked at some pics of guys that have gyno and it looks just like mine. So should i stay on letro just in case?

is it hard lump/ball under your nipple?

any real sensitivity more than normal?

No none of that stuff no lumps never itched or anything they just seem puffy and there is a kinda fatty roll that comes from my under armpit into my chest.

its the start of gyno

Dont worry dude, I got caught taking steroids by my parents and they sent me to a steroid doctor. I asked him about the gyno i had and he said it should go away within a year, so it may take a little bit but it will go away

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Originally Posted by polly56

Dont worry dude, I got caught taking steroids by my parents and they sent me to a steroid doctor. I asked him about the gyno i had and he said it should go away within a year, so it may take a little bit but it will go away

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your doctor was wrong. It never goes away.

I guess we will see after I'm done with letro. How long does it usually take for letro to start working so you see results?

Obviously we can't tell you for sure, but I'm sorry to say that looks exactly like gyno. Check very carefully for lumps, I dont think you're doing it right. I have gyno, FOR SURE, had it for six months, and it looks exactly like yours, just smaller. Sorry man, that's just what i think. Cardio doesn't help, but putting more mass on your chest will.

I don't think you have chit... Can you feel a lump?

no i dont have any lumps its just kinda feels like fat

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Originally Posted by G-Force

how long did you wait after your test cycle before starting PCT

test c is a lonog ester so you need to wait around 3 weeks before starting pct

if you did pct immediately the test will still be in your system

i wouldnt worry the letro will get rid of it but it takes a while to kick in

ps gyno has nothing to do with water, diet, or cardio - its to do with estrogen levels which are high having been on cycle

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I thought PCT for test c and test e were 14 days after last inj?

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/clomid-hcg.aspx

If you go to pct section on this site it says 18 days after last shot. If i get this gyno from running one cycle with pct then it makes me wonder how come all the pros dont have gyno after as many cycles as they do.

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Originally Posted by Shurik

If you go to pct section on this site it says 18 days after last shot. If i get this gyno from running one cycle with pct then it makes me wonder how come all the pros dont have gyno after as many cycles as they do.

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They can afford the surgery to remove it.

Now I'm kinda scared to do another cycle, what if it gets worse do you guys have any ideas of what i can do so i can run another cycle and not run into this problem?

I am no expert but your pct seems lacking. Clomid and Nolva are both SERMS and while these are good you really should have been using LIquidex or Letro from the beginning. If you take .25 mg of liquidex a day on cycle that should prevent gyno before it starts

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Originally Posted by FreeDOOM

I am no expert but your pct seems lacking. Clomid and Nolva are both SERMS and while these are good you really should have been using LIquidex or Letro from the beginning. If you take .25 mg of liquidex a day on cycle that should prevent gyno before it starts

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Letro from the beginning? Do you care to explain to us WHY?

I was taking liquidex maybe couple of times a week instead of the every other day routine because i thought i was fine, cause i did not have any of the symptoms of gyno.

don't do anymore cycles. It's simple. It looks like you could still accomplish a whole lot without anabolics anyway. 1lb of natural, worry-free muscle is worth 3lbs of transient roidmeat imo. I'd rather lose weight than gain a few pounds with the risk of being a squeaky bald freak with tiny balls and bitch tits.

Keep it up and you'll have an excuse to wear this :

http://www.tinakoyama.com/Bra-Purse_W.jpg

Not only a bra but also boob-bag!!!

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Originally Posted by RapaciousShark

don't do anymore cycles. It's simple. It looks like you could still accomplish a whole lot without anabolics anyway. 1lb of natural, worry-free muscle is worth 3lbs of transient roidmeat imo. I'd rather lose weight than gain a few pounds with the risk of being a squeaky bald freak with tiny balls and bitch tits.

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probably the wrong forum for an anti steroid speach lol

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Originally Posted by Emilio_Rebenga

Letro from the beginning? Do you care to explain to us WHY?

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This link will explain it http://forums.steroid.com/educational-threads/236880-all-you-need-know-about-gyno.html

Yeah bro, nipples look puffy. Keep on the letro.

From reading that thread it sounds like i have progesterone gyno. Will letro work for that too because of now it does not seem to make a difference or i will need to do something else to get rid of it. By the way i only have maybe 10ml left out of 30ml, should i order more?

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please help, in desprate need of a pct and cant find one anywhere else

thanks for jacking my thread buddy, but ya its legit stuff but pricey