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    1st week on Cycle

    Hello All - Last Monday I started on my 1st cycle to lean out...not bulk up. Currently I am 34yr old make, 6'4, 260lbs 18%BF. I am going to do a 10 wk cycle of Deca , Winny and HGH. This cycle will consist of 1 shot a wk of 2cc of Decca, 50 mg a day of Winny and 25 units a day of HGH.

    This past week have been to the gym 5 days and each day I have done at least 45mins to an hour of hard cardio. I have been very strict about my diet as the 1st 4 days I averaged about 450 grams of protein and very little to no carbs. On the 5th day I slowly added good carbs to my diet and will continue to do so throughout my routine. I also drink roughly 1 1/2 gallons of water a day.

    Since my goal is to lean out rather than bulking up... After one week into this cycle, I have gained 9lbs. Im sure its water retention from the decca, but with such a low dosage i didnt think this would be it. Should I consider going off the decca and continue with the HGH and WINNY?

    I am curios to hear about your thoughts and or concerns about this.

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    For starters you should be using test. And did you start at 25iu/day of HGH?

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    damn it big... u got here first... anyways... ^^ ditto what he said

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    Yes I did.. I started all of this this past Monday.

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    Why no test?
    And have you run HGH before? That's a crazy dosage to start at.

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    This is my 1st time on HGH.. Talking with different people about my goals, this is what I was told that would be best for my needs. Being that everything is such low dosage, I should be able to lean out in no time with the right diet and work-out including lots of cardio.

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    Did you research it at all before starting? Typically people start at 2iu/day, and after a couple weeks ramp up to 3, etc. I've never heard of anyone running that much, let alone starting at that much. I really don't see the point.

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    WTF 25iu's of GH!??! Are you Jay Cutler or something typing?

    That's not only financially retarded, it's stupid to run

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    bro that deca is not good for your natural test levels, and although diet determines weather you cut or bulk, deca is not a very good cutting drug

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199789

    i'd throw in some test ASAP if you want to keep the deca bro, search deca dick and you will find out really good reasons to do so

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    If you are wanting to runa cutting cycle... you should think about htis... fortunetly you are in week 1...

    Test Prop 75mg ED for 10 weeks
    Winny 50mg ED for week 5-10
    and if u wanted to throw in HGH, then start at 2iu a day 5x a week (so basically no HGH on weekends) then go up to 3iu after a few weeks

    although it was said by MR T, Diet will determine if u cut or bulk, but prop doesnt retain as much water as test e might...

    be sure to do cardio right when u get up on a empty stomach, that will help burn some excess fat....

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    i have a feeling he is going to 25 on a slin pin and thinks thats 25iu of gh.

    bro no offence but your cycle sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    i have a feeling he is going to 25 on a slin pin and thinks thats 25iu of gh.

    bro no offence but your cycle sucks.
    That or he meant 2.5IU

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    or u can read all of the posts, he said "yes" to the 25iu... so doubt he meant 2.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    or u can read all of the posts, he said "yes" to the 25iu... so doubt he meant 2.5
    i just think he is 25 iu in the needle and doesnt know the difference. cant imagine him going through a kit in 4 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    i just think he is 25 iu in the needle and doesnt know the difference. cant imagine him going through a kit in 4 days
    I hope you're right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NtensiV View Post
    Hello All - Last Monday I started on my 1st cycle to lean out...not bulk up. This cycle will consist of 1 shot a wk of 2cc of Decca, 50 mg a day of Winny and 25 units a day of HGH.
    ummmm?

    where is test? DECA DI*K is coming my man



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    The syringes that I am using show 1cc or 100 units. There for insulin ..I am using 1/4 of that of that each day 5 days a week... I have 2 kits of the HGH to last me 2 months. I have no intentions of going through a kit in 4 days.

    So what I am reading... The Decca may not be a good idea.. Being I have only taken 1 shot @ 2cc. What do you guys recommend? Stop the Decca and continue with the HGH and Winny for a cutting cycle?

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    stop the deca and get some test.... winny alone isnt good

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    Quote Originally Posted by NtensiV View Post
    The syringes that I am using show 1cc or 100 units. There for insulin ..I am using 1/4 of that of that each day 5 days a week... I have 2 kits of the HGH to last me 2 months. I have no intentions of going through a kit in 4 days.

    So what I am reading... The Decca may not be a good idea.. Being I have only taken 1 shot @ 2cc. What do you guys recommend? Stop the Decca and continue with the HGH and Winny for a cutting cycle?
    no stop the cycle period, hit ur self in the head with a lead pipe and go to sleep

    jk jk man
    id drop deca get some test orrrrr
    drop hgh get deca and test


    butttt for cutting test and winny

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    Quote Originally Posted by NtensiV View Post
    The syringes that I am using show 1cc or 100 units. There for insulin ..I am using 1/4 of that of that each day 5 days a week... I have 2 kits of the HGH to last me 2 months. I have no intentions of going through a kit in 4 days.

    So what I am reading... The Decca may not be a good idea.. Being I have only taken 1 shot @ 2cc. What do you guys recommend? Stop the Decca and continue with the HGH and Winny for a cutting cycle?
    then you are doing 2.5 iu a day. and 2.5 for 2 months will do nothing for you.

    Seems the people youve been talking to have no clue

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    So everyone has there own opinion as what not to take. All I have been reading is negative feed back about decca. I've told you what I am taking and majority of you claimed to stop the decca and i appreciate that a lot. However, your one line comments "You have no clue" or "Hit yourself in the head" really doesnt help me at this point.

    What is the pro's and con's IF I stopping the decca and throwing in a test with the hgh and winny? OR what about just using the HGH and WINNY alone?

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    HGH at 2.5iu/day for 2 months is a total waste of cash.

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    ONCE AGAIN - What do you recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NtensiV View Post
    ONCE AGAIN - What do you recommend?
    RESEARCH

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    LOL, bro always do your own research before starting a cycle. Even here people have different opinions. Do the research and find what you think will work best for you

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    dude get off the deca now! go with sust or another form of test before your manhood becomes lazy and the girlfriend/wife gets pissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NtensiV View Post
    ONCE AGAIN - What do you recommend?
    I recommend stopping all of your cycle NOW, and get some test... either prop or test e... however you are wanting to cut so i'd recommend getting some prop... once u get that then uc an start a cycle again

    here is a sample cycle

    test p 75-100mg ED for 10 weeks (has least amount of water retention)
    winny 50 mg ED for weeks 5-10 (side note - winny wont get u cut up, it makes your muscles harder, your diet will determine how u cut up)

    your hgh dosage is ok, but you need to run it for at least 6 months to get much results, but if you are dead set on running some HGH,

    Start at 2 IU 5x a week (5 on, 2 off) and go up to 3 after 2 weeks, then to 4 IU after another 2 weeks and then cruise at 4 IU's... do this for 6 months... this will help cut you down

    HOWEVER, all your results are going to depend on your diet!!!!!
    I repeat, YOUR DIET IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING NEEDED
    I recommend going to the diet forum and figure out what a good diet would be for your goals..

    after that, double check your workouts... some things i'd be sure to include is empty stomach running (right when u get up, go for a 2 mile jog) and many meals throughout the day

    best of luck!

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