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    Test Susp vs. Test Enth

    Alright I've completed one cycle using Test susp alone for 10weeks. I was thinking about stacking Eq with some kind of Test in my next cycle but Im dont really like giving my self a shot every day for 10 or 12 weeks. Ive read that Test enth is real popular. Would someone point me in the right direction to what kind of test you would use?

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    are you bulking or cutting in this cycle. it matters mainly because of bloat but test e or c are very easy to use with only 2 injects a wk. If you are cutting prop is best because it causes little to no water retention but you will need to inject at least eod. you can use test enth, cyp while bulking or cutting but I would advise running adex if cutting to help with bloat.

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    This is going to be a bulking cycle, Im not too worried about bloat...Im trying to gain weight and strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeb23 View Post
    This is going to be a bulking cycle, Im not too worried about bloat...Im trying to gain weight and strength.
    i would go with test enanthate and deca cycle for a bulking, something like

    1-12 deca 400mg/wk
    1-14 test enth 500mg/wk

    this way you could inject the test and deca in the same needle twice a week

    make sure to get an AI like arimidex to keep bloat under control

    what was your pct for your last cycle?

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    21 years old
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    Ive been lifting on and off for about 5 years, but im really starting to buckle down and train hard.

    I never had a problem with bloat on my first cycle and im not really sure what it is?

    didnt have much of a PCT like people suggest. My supplies were limited and was originally going to run my cycle for 12 weeks. I slowly lowered my dosage the last 2 weeks from about 650mg/week to 150mg/week and havnt had any problems.

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    here is some stuff to research, it's a guide for a test cycle with a dbol kick but read the info and it will help you understand/get a base of knowledge for your next cycle

    TEST BEGINNER CYCLE INFO

    here, i'll lay out some stuff for you,
    first thing, you need to get your diet in check, here is some threads on cutting, lean bulking and pure bulking to give you some info, but you need to post your diet for critiqueing, your wasting your money otherwise

    Diet

    UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...
    UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...
    Appetite For Construction
    http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/calories/calories.html

    only when you have your diet down should you think about cycling, a beginner cycle should look like this

    1-12 test e 500mg/week
    1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)

    take your test injections 3.5 days apart, like monday morning and thursday evening

    split your dbol up throughout the day, this will keep your blood levels stable, which means less sides and more gains

    if you take the dbol, supplement with liv52 to help you liver cope with breaking down the dbol

    btw, here are the profiles on the AS you will be using so read them and get to know the stuff your putting in your body

    Test Enth
    Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Testosterone Enanthate

    Dianabol
    Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)

    Next is your pct, which should begin two weeks after your last test injection and should be a phneedo's pct, whats that you ask? here it is

    Pheendo's PCT
    Pheedno's PCT

    while your at it read this one as well for future cycles

    Anthony Roberts PCT
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758


    Now for some other important stuff, you need to have some arimidex on hand in case you start getting water retention or gyno, so get some, in fact, read this thread 3x before you start your cycle as it will tell you....

    All You Need To Know About Gyno

    All you need to know about GYNO.

    that should get you read for your cycle, best of luck

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    wow! thanks man. Ive got some reading to do!

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    Alright I think this is what Iam wanting to do. if Anyone has suggestions let me know

    1-12 test e 500mg/week
    1-12 Eq 500mg/week
    1-4 dbol 40mg/day

    And this for my PCT
    Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

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    and could someone tell me why i cant PM anyone?

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    damn Phate!! why cant i get that kind of answer when i post ???"S. thats what i call helpin a brutha out!

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    get some more posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeb23 View Post
    and could someone tell me why i cant PM anyone?
    you have to have at least 25 posts i think to pm someone, go to the lounge and rack up some posts

    Quote Originally Posted by drive it!! View Post
    damn Phate!! why cant i get that kind of answer when i post ???"S. thats what i call helpin a brutha out!
    well start a new thread with a question and i'll throw you some links to info, lol

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    ok nevermind forget that cycle. Finally found a reasonalbe source for test suspension.

    1-12 test suspension 500mg/week
    1-12 Equipoise 500mg/week

    I dont think i would need the dbol kickstart with the test susp?

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