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    test prop vs. test enth for 1st cycle

    hey guys i was wondering what would be better for first cycle?

    i had a post similar to this one about a week ago but i never got any answers on why one is better than the other.

    it would be a cutting cycle
    so my ideas are


    test e 500mg split into 2 for 10wks
    test prop 600mg split into 200mg EOD for 7 wks
    OR
    test prop 450mg split into 150mg EOD for 7 wks
    or
    test p 50mg e/d for 7 wks


    any help would be greatly appreciated


    the reason id like to go with prop is because it provides less bloating, it has less side affects, its a shorter cycle, its cheaper (for me at least),it leaves my body quicker, plus i get more steroid with prop vs enth
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    First off, If this is your first cycle, I would NOT be shooting 200mg EOD of Test Prop! In my opinion, I would go with Test E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUYLONGTERM View Post
    First off, If this is your first cycle, I would NOT be shooting 200mg EOD of Test Prop! In my opinion, I would go with Test E.
    okay but why? not tryin to be a di*k just tryin to find out why more people would go with e on the first cycle? i was thinkin about doing test prop at like 150mg EOD or even 100mg EOD

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    Quote Originally Posted by boDAWG View Post
    okay but why? not tryin to be a di*k just tryin to find out why more people would go with e on the first cycle? i was thinkin about doing test prop at like 150mg EOD or even 100mg EOD
    200mg eod isnt that much, just a tad unnecessary for the 1st timer. 50 or 75 mg/ed would be sufficient.

    Most people say go with test e for a first cycle because you only have to inject 2x weekly max, where with prop you have to inject eod at a minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No One Knows View Post
    200mg eod isnt that much, just a tad unnecessary for the 1st timer. 50 or 75 mg/ed would be sufficient.

    Most people say go with test e for a first cycle because you only have to inject 2x weekly max, where with prop you have to inject eod at a minimum.
    i dont mind needles so im unsure of what to do honestly, im leaning more towards test p because i get more steroid, and it has less side affects, and its cheaper. also i fight in MMA so i dont know if i will be getting tested in september for my fight and if i do i wanna use an AAS that will leave my body sooner

    but bottom line: most people will recommend test e JUST because you inject it twice a week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boDAWG View Post
    hey guys i was wondering what would be better for first cycle?

    i had a post similar to this one about a week ago but i never got any answers on why one is better than the other.

    it would be a cutting cycle
    so my ideas are


    test e 500mg split into 2 for 10wks
    test prop 600mg split into 200mg EOD for 7 wks
    OR
    test prop 450mg split into 150mg EOD for 7 wks
    or
    test p 50mg e/d for 7 wks


    any help would be greatly appreciated


    the reason id like to go with prop is because it provides less bloating, it has less side affects, its a shorter cycle, its cheaper (for me at least),it leaves my body quicker, plus i get more steroid with prop vs enth
    Thats a pretty rhetorical Q.
    Seems that you don't really need an answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATS60 View Post
    Thats a pretty rhetorical Q.
    Seems that you don't really need an answer.
    i just wanna see other peoples input on this........most people will say for a first time test e, but when i ask why nobody gives me a good answer except "ummm well you inject it twice a week vs ed or eod"

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    prop is a pretty painful injection. expecially on virgin muscle

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    Quote Originally Posted by burnin69 View Post
    prop is a pretty painful injection. expecially on virgin muscle
    is that about it? well except the frequency on injections? i mean no other difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boDAWG View Post
    i just wanna see other peoples input on this........most people will say for a first time test e, but when i ask why nobody gives me a good answer except "ummm well you inject it twice a week vs ed or eod"
    The reason why is simply that, you don't have to inject so often, most newbie posts, as i'm sure you are aware want info on orals cause their not keen on injecting, so recommending short esters like prop isn't a great idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No One Knows View Post
    200mg eod isnt that much, just a tad unnecessary for the 1st timer. 50 or 75 mg/ed would be sufficient.

    Most people say go with test e for a first cycle because you only have to inject 2x weekly max, where with prop you have to inject eod at a minimum.
    Reason he said that is becuase prop should be shot EOD at minimum which can cause issues with the first time user and discourage them not only from the multiple injections but also the prop ester may cause pain to the individual more-so then someone else.


    Also 200mg EOD or 100mg ED is overkill. like you stated 50-75mg ED is plenty sufficient and if not then DIET def. needs to be adjusted.

    Enanthate is a bit LESS painful then prop and only needs to be injected 2x per week. You would probably be real happy with the enanthate over the prop IMHO.

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    test e is a better choice for a beginner for the above reasons, prop isnt too bad if you dont mind the frequent injections.. results start showing faster, one thing I dont think most people realize is that test is test. the esters only affect release time.. If you dont mind the injections just go for whichever one you can get cheaper, doesn't make sense to go above 500mg/week for a first cycle though

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    Quote Originally Posted by legobricks View Post
    Reason he said that is becuase prop should be shot EOD at minimum which can cause issues with the first time user and discourage them not only from the multiple injections but also the prop ester may cause pain to the individual more-so then someone else.


    Also 200mg EOD or 100mg ED is overkill. like you stated 50-75mg ED is plenty sufficient and if not then DIET def. needs to be adjusted.

    Enanthate is a bit LESS painful then prop and only needs to be injected 2x per week. You would probably be real happy with the enanthate over the prop IMHO.
    Great Advise!!!!!

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    ok so basically we're back to where we started with the only diff is how often u inject, and prop is a bit more painful. i dont mind the needles and ed or eod injections and since i can get prop cheaper i think i will go with prop

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    My first cycle currently is prop, and i love it... 100mg ED... i wouldnt do anything else... i dont think i would like haveing to wait 6 weeks before it starts to kick in... i loved it how it kicked in during the 2nd week.... amazing IMHO... and its usually alot shorter of a cycle... compared to test e...

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    would it be bad to take test cyp, right after test prop?
    Im in the middle of a cycle about 2 weeks in and Im taking 1-cc every other day and stacked with masteron and i have not noticed any results.....

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    start ur own thread

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    my first cycle uses a prop kickstart for week 1-4 then test e 1-12 to get the gains coming sooner

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    for my next cycle i was going on prop n enathate i was considering adding anapolan 50mg.....or can i go on anapolans by them self

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    Quote Originally Posted by boDAWG View Post
    is that about it? well except the frequency on injections? i mean no other difference?
    Well boDAWG, if you don't mind injecting yourself everyday or EOD, then go with test p since it kicks in quicker than test e.

    But on the other hand, you could also frontload test e the first week and it would kick in on the beginning of the second week.

    One thing that I like about test p is that is doesn't bloat you like test e. I guess that is the other difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burnin69 View Post
    prop is a pretty painful injection. expecially on virgin muscle

    so is test E though, i had virgin muscles and am on test E right now, pretty painful, you will get a fever two days after the very first injection, and at any site the first time there will be redness that looks like a sunburn, just something to consider, however

    i hear there are no problems of this sort with deca, howver, you absolutly do not want to take deca by itslef if you ever plan on getting an erection again

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    Lemonada has a real hard on for Prop.....lol. I'm gonna run prop next but I think you should go with E. or cyp for a first cycle. After you get one under your belt then consider the prop. You may not think so now, but the everday shots might be overwhelming. But this is just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i like to workout View Post
    so is test E though, i had virgin muscles and am on test E right now, pretty painful, you will get a fever two days after the very first injection, and at any site the first time there will be redness that looks like a sunburn, just something to consider, however

    i hear there are no problems of this sort with deca, howver, you absolutly do not want to take deca by itslef if you ever plan on getting an erection again
    lol thanks for your input but being a member here for over a year i know u get test fever lol

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