Ok..my first thread!!

[heaven_lee]

Although I admittedly can't speak from experience, from what I've read, a 100-110-lb gal should probably start out with just 5 mg of Anavar a day. If you are tolerating it well, after a week or so, maybe go up to 10 mg (or at the outside 15 mg) but not any more for first cycle. Then, at the end of cycle, taper back down to 5 mg/day.

40 mg/day is, like, waaaay too much for a gal, especially the first time. That amount creates a hazard of voice deepening etc.

Are you 25 years old yet? (Below age 25, there's lots of room for natural gains).

It's really important to do your research so you know proper dose, length of cycle etc.

And, wait until after surgery - you won't be able to w/o right after the


surgery. Also, make sure you don't have plans to compete in a natural/tested event. A few weeks after surgery, it may help recovery. You want to do the cycle at a time when you can really focus on working out, eating properly, and your goals of building muscle.

Best wishes!

thank you, I did some research for weeks before I joined but everyone says something different/contradicting. I know that's probably because everyone reacts differenty to different things or they know someone who had a good/bad experience. that's ok, I'm going to figure out where I want to be and exactly what my goals are and go from there. After doing some searching I also found another compound called primo. It seems that is another form popular with women. I might look into that too.

[heaven_lee]

Good luck with your gains

Thanks burning ( sorry BurniN )

[heaven_lee]

I have another (stupid)question then I'll stop bothering you all for a while. Ive read alot of steroids being faked. Is anavar something that gets faked a lot?

[jsinur7]

I have another (stupid)question then I'll stop bothering you all for a while. Ive read alot of steroids being faked. Is anavar something that gets faked a lot?

it is from what i hear... often just replaced with winstrol and sold as anavar..

for the female section

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=anavar+female

[heaven_lee]

it is from what i hear... often just replaced with winstrol and sold as anavar..

for the female section

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=anavar+female

thanks jsinur

[jsinur7]

thanks jsinur

U R Most Welcome....

[edmen2]

definitely the best choice for a woman. Not sure if you have read this but here it is anyway http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199816 I would think for a first cycle for a woman that 40mg ED would be enough. I would run that for six weeks and see how you go. PCT for a woman is an interesting question. Given that all PCT that I have seen is designed to restart Testosterone production. Not really applicable in a female's case, but I will defer to someone wiser than me for an answer on that one.

40 mg is way to high females should start out at 5mg ed and up the dosage to 10mg if no sides are present. remember sides on a female are permanent and no pct is needed. my wife put on 10 lbs of clean muscle with an 8 wk anavar cycle.

[edmen2]

thank you, I did some research for weeks before I joined but everyone says something different/contradicting. I know that's probably because everyone reacts differenty to different things or they know someone who had a good/bad experience. that's ok, I'm going to figure out where I want to be and exactly what my goals are and go from there. After doing some searching I also found another compound called primo. It seems that is another form popular with women. I might look into that too.

primo is great for women it makes ur nails and hair shine and puts on some great lean muscle but it is also the most counterfeited steroid out there so unless u have a great ug source i wouldnt even bother with primo.

[heaven_lee]

primo is great for women it makes ur nails and hair shine and puts on some great lean muscle but it is also the most counterfeited steroid out there so unless u have a great ug source i wouldnt even bother with primo.

thats what ive been worring about, fakes. that sounds really really good though. i wouldlove to do a cycle of that. how do i know if i have a good ug source.

[heaven_lee]

lol never mind. that was stupid question. i keep forgetting that you guys abbreviate everything..it took me a minute to figure it out.

[edmen2]

lol never mind. that was stupid question. i keep forgetting that you guys abbreviate everything..it took me a minute to figure it out.

i used to get primo straight from my source, no middle man. he made it himself and he was very trusted on these boards. but he was a casualty of operation raw deal and i have yet to find anyone i trust. real primo is kinda like the unicorn of juice!

[heaven_lee]

i used to get primo straight from my source, no middle man. he made it himself and he was very trusted on these boards. but he was a casualty of operation raw deal and i have yet to find anyone i trust. real primo is kinda like the unicorn of juice!

That makes me somewhat depressed , Because they are the only 2 things I was thinking about taking. I heard there were others for women but I don't want to risk the side effects.

[NATE0406]

That makes me somewhat depressed , Because they are the only 2 things I was thinking about taking. I heard there were others for women but I don't want to risk the side effects.

var will do nicely.

[swol_je]

diet: have 2 egg whites and wheat toast Breakfast
snack: granola/yogurt or tuna and crackers/ p-butter w/ crackers
lunch chicken or beef with veggies / or tuna on wheat w/fruit
dinner : chicken / steak / fish with veggies
snack: maybe popcorn or wheat thins


Help??

First off, check ur wheat bread. If it says enriched flower before it says wheat bread (which most breads do), its not real wheat breada and will spike insulin almost as much as white bread. U definitly want to take in ur carbs during the earlier meals. Yogurt is full of sugar and I would only intake dairy carbs after a workout. Crackers are all White bread and create a hugh insulin spike. ex. wheat thins. Try to intake ur fruit pre or post w/o also. Ur last meal should have no to very little carbs in it, which it does, so that looks good.

[heaven_lee]

First off, check ur wheat bread. If it says enriched flower before it says wheat bread (which most breads do), its not real wheat breada and will spike insulin almost as much as white bread. U definitly want to take in ur carbs during the earlier meals. Yogurt is full of sugar and I would only intake dairy carbs after a workout. Crackers are all White bread and create a hugh insulin spike. ex. wheat thins. Try to intake ur fruit pre or post w/o also. Ur last meal should have no to very little carbs in it, which it does, so that looks good.

Thank you. Thats good advice. I've realized after reading up on some of the diet forums that my diet is way out of order. I have a lot of work to do trying to tune that up.

[edmen2]

That makes me somewhat depressed , Because they are the only 2 things I was thinking about taking. I heard there were others for women but I don't want to risk the side effects.

anavar is a great first cycle for women. make sure u start at 5mg ed and if no sides are present u can up it to 10mg but i wouldnt go any higher. remember ur gains are permanent with no pct but sides are permanent also. i have had experience with alot of women and most say not to cycle unless ur gonna compete but to each their own and u only live once!

[heaven_lee]

anavar is a great first cycle for women. make sure u start at 5mg ed and if no sides are present u can up it to 10mg but i wouldnt go any higher. remember ur gains are permanent with no pct but sides are permanent also. i have had experience with alot of women and most say not to cycle unless ur gonna compete but to each their own and u only live once!

youre right. Well anavar it is.

[edmen2]

youre right. Well anavar it is.

i know u have probably heard conflicting statements on dosages. but trust me when i say to start at 5mg u can always extend another week or 2 if u choose. but if u start to get any side effects like a squeaky or deeper voice or mysterious facial at higher dosages u need to back off. these side effects are usually permanent in women. body building women could care less about these side effects but u dont wanna be a hot chick with a deeper voice than ur b/f! i have some experience with women and gear but so if u need to pm me u can. as far as diet i cant help u much but i can help u with gear.

[heaven_lee]

i know u have probably heard conflicting statements on dosages. but trust me when i say to start at 5mg u can always extend another week or 2 if u choose. but if u start to get any side effects like a squeaky or deeper voice or mysterious facial at higher dosages u need to back off. these side effects are usually permanent in women. body building women could care less about these side effects but u dont wanna be a hot chick with a deeper voice than ur b/f! i have some experience with women and gear but so if u need to pm me u can. as far as diet i cant help u much but i can help u with gear.

Ok, I definitely do not want facial hair or a deep voice. (no bf btw) I'm deathly afraid of getting man like features. That's why I'm starting to get scared. I think I'm starting to have second thoughts. My upstairs neighbor told me a story or two about girls who thought they were taking anavar,primo, ect and it ended up being something totally different and caused major man like side affects. And i've also heard a lot about these guys or dealers or sources whatever u call them who are all con artists and scammers. I'm realy starting to have second thoughts. This stuff is a little more complicated than i thought. I could live with getting ripped off but I could never deal with a beard...lol

[edmen2]

Ok, I definitely do not want facial hair or a deep voice. (no bf btw) I'm deathly afraid of getting man like features. That's why I'm starting to get scared. I think I'm starting to have second thoughts. My upstairs neighbor told me a story or two about girls who thought they were taking anavar,primo, ect and it ended up being something totally different and caused major man like side affects. And i've also heard a lot about these guys or dealers or sources whatever u call them who are all con artists and scammers. I'm realy starting to have second thoughts. This stuff is a little more complicated than i thought. I could live with getting ripped off but I could never deal with a beard...lol

anavar is pretty easy to get but it is still hard to find a source right now. like i said most women have stated to me that "women shouldnt cycle unless they are going to compete!" good luck with whatever decision u make.

[heaven_lee]

anavar is pretty easy to get but it is still hard to find a source right now. like i said most women have stated to me that "women shouldnt cycle unless they are going to compete!" good luck with whatever decision u make.

My plans are to compete around this time next year. But thanks to this site I'm actually thinking about doing it natural for now. I don't know if I'm ready for the risk vs reward. I tried to pm you but I don't have a pm feature on my account yet.

[burnin69]

I believe you only need one more post!!!

[edmen2]

My plans are to compete around this time next year. But thanks to this site I'm actually thinking about doing it natural for now. I don't know if I'm ready for the risk vs reward. I tried to pm you but I don't have a pm feature on my account yet.

i believe at 50 posts then u can pm.

[heaven_lee]

i believe at 50 posts then u can pm.

is that right? I believe this would be #50

[heaven_lee]

hmm, maybe i need 51 because i'm a girl

[heaven_lee]

nope...that didn't work either

[roodogg]

You might have to wait 30 days to pm. I know a great nutritionist & female BB/fitness & figure competitors in the Red Bank area if u r close.

[edmen2]

nope...that didn't work either

email the administrator or a mod and let them know u r a girl so they can change ur status. females tend to get a few more privileges.

[heaven_lee]

email the administrator or a mod and let them know u r a girl so they can change ur status. females tend to get a few more privileges.

I tried that too. It's not the end of the world if I'm not on it, although I am very interested in what they have to say. so far everything i have read has been from a males perspective. I would like to hear from actual girls and read up on thier trials...but no big deal.