what causes deca bloat?

[bmit]

From my research seems to be a combination of factors:

1) slight conversion to estrogen (read it to be @ 20% of rate of test conversion)
2) stimulating progesterone receptor (so deca doesn't aromatize into progesterones but nandralone stimulates the receptor?)
3) some other mechanism i read about involving sodium and the muscles

does anyone have anything to contribute or comments on this? What are the most effective ways to minimize the bloating caused by deca?

I have used sauna, drinking lots of water, cardio, lower bodyfat, low sodium, and letro. Any other ways to reduce bloating caused by deca? Have read about bromo and caber.

[dece870717]

I don't know if affecting the progesterone receptor would be a cause of bloat as Tren is far greater at affecting the progesterone receptor than Deca and Tren gives zero water retention.

[dehydromethandrotren]

The slower decanoate ester will provide increased water retention with not only nandrolone but other steroids as well.

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[axemurderer187]

From my research seems to be a combination of factors:
What are the most effective ways to minimize the bloating caused by deca?

I like armidex

[bmit]

good point that tren, from what i understand, stimulates the progesterone receptor and doesn't cause bloat. HMMMMM.

[Chubbosaurus]

Have you tried NPP instead of Deca?

[bmit]

couldn't get my hands on npp and got sick of everyday injects anyways (coming off 14 weeks of pin cushion prop)