needles - breaking the skin barrier

**stevesh1974** · 07-03-2008, 10:48 PM

What's the smallest gauge suitable for injections?

It's my first injection, and I tried 25 gauge, and couldn't break the skin.

Does going in at 45 degrees help?

**Big** · 07-03-2008, 10:50 PM

Nope, don't go 45 degrees, 25ga is fine, just man up and shoot. Once you get past the first one you'll be fine.

**RaWRZ0R!** · 07-03-2008, 10:51 PM

i use 28 lol just takes forever to inject and have to be really careful

**Big** · 07-03-2008, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by RaWRZ0R!

i use 28 lol just takes forever to inject and have to be really careful

Why 28ga? How long of a pin?

**burnin69** · 07-03-2008, 10:54 PM

dont be afraid to add some pressure it'll break and a 25g is as small as your gonna get unless your shooting with a slim pin. My first shot took like 2min of pushing against the skin just was to scared to push hard. Once you break the skin its like butter. You can always have someone do it for you.

**JiGGaMaN** · 07-03-2008, 10:54 PM

Not to be a dick or anything but what else do you think they would make a syringe for? You can inject with any of them.

**burnin69** · 07-03-2008, 10:54 PM

28g thats gotta take forever to inject

**burnin69** · 07-03-2008, 10:55 PM

I use 22g 1 1/2" for glutes and 25g 1" every where else.

**MercyDog** · 07-03-2008, 11:01 PM

steve, just stab it to get it started them push in slowly. its all in your head. Either you really need to be in the gym or your not using the right pin if you can't break the skin, it is pointed and not flat and round on the end right?

**MercyDog** · 07-03-2008, 11:08 PM

21x1.5 for everything, smooth as silk

**T_Own** · 07-03-2008, 11:21 PM

unless you used the same needle to draw from a nalgene bottle they'll be sharp enough to break the skin.

**bodybuilder1107** · 07-03-2008, 11:28 PM

just push alittle harder bro unless your superman or severely dehydrated you can push through easy enough

**MuscleScience** · 07-03-2008, 11:41 PM

Is there a sticky about this?

**bodybuilder1107** · 07-03-2008, 11:42 PM

yes there is one i believe in the newbie starter pack or one of them there is a thread on injection with what needles to use where

**RaWRZ0R!** · 07-03-2008, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Big

Why 28ga? How long of a pin?

its the only thing that is available around me and its only 1/2 so i shoot in my delt or my calf. it does hit muscle cause i get the muscle soreness and i am seeing results

**T_Own** · 07-03-2008, 11:49 PM

isn't half inch enough for chest or quads?

**RaWRZ0R!** · 07-03-2008, 11:50 PM

the cops around here are really strict so im not trying to bring to much in but next cycle ill hopefully get 1" and maybe 25g

**RaWRZ0R!** · 07-03-2008, 11:51 PM

yeah i shot my quad once lol i couldnt walk the next day

**G4R** · 07-04-2008, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by stevesh1974

What's the smallest gauge suitable for injections?

It's my first injection, and I tried 25 gauge, and couldn't break the skin.

Does going in at 45 degrees help?

25 gauge, is it a 5/8 inch needle? If so, what part of the body are you injecting?

**CAMboy** · 07-04-2008, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by stevesh1974

What's the smallest gauge suitable for injections?

It's my first injection, and I tried 25 gauge, and couldn't break the skin.

Does going in at 45 degrees help?

there are several factors - muscle size...bf%. What are ur stats? Where are you injecting?

**Amorphic** · 07-04-2008, 01:47 AM

25g is as small as i go. 22g for glutes.

**Big** · 07-04-2008, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by T_Own

isn't half inch enough for chest or quads?

I shoot chest and quads with 25ga 1"

**lex57** · 07-04-2008, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by MercyDog

21x1.5 for everything, smooth as silk

i would be careful suggesting this. once or twice a week is fine but daily or every other day is gonna cause serious scar tissue. frequent injects should be 25's i cant even feel it anymore.

**thecivilizedanimal** · 07-05-2008, 07:30 AM

25x5/8 delts
23x1 quads

thats what i use

**stevesh1974** · 07-07-2008, 05:40 PM

I used ice to numb the area, and things went well. I did all the disinfecting that I was supposed to do.
I am using a SEO to break through a plateau, and get my calves from 16 up to 17 inches.

**stpete** · 07-07-2008, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by stevesh1974

I used ice to numb the area, and things went well. I did all the disinfecting that I was supposed to do.
I am using a SEO to break through a plateau, and get my calves from 16 up to 17 inches.

I don't know what an SEO is. I only used ice (years ago) when i had to inject with an 18 gauge for 2 weeks. Are you spot injecting hoping that it will make your calves bigger?