15 years old, starting first cycle this winter.

[young n experienced]

Im going to go with 8 weeks of 1-test at 200mg per day transdermally. I plan on doing similar cycles.
The reason I am doing this is to excel even farther in sports, and hopefully get a scholorship.
I would like to hear everyone's opinions.

[MIKE_XXL]

You are to young, PERIOD!!!!

[Full Intensity]

seriously, wait until your body matures. As Mike said you are too young

[Shredz]

Originally posted by MIKE_XXL
You are to young, PERIOD!!!!

2nd that!!!
Anyone else want to 3rd that???

[JohnnyB]

I agree, not slam Bro, juice isn't the magic formula to excel in sports.

JohnnyB

[malidfa]

Tooooooooooooooooooo young!!!!!!!!!

[Jack87]

I am so fucking sick of 15 and 16 year olds asking about performance enhancers....

[Iwan2bsolid2]

way too young, you can do alot naturally right now - your test levels should be soring. Creating + Glutamine + Flax oil are the only worth while supps I'd think about. Give those a try.

[icer2k]

umm he said 1-test...thats a prohormone....who gives a shit if he wastes his money on that

[JetBlack]

bro you are 15 you have so mch damn test running through your body right now!! if you use test now you can and most likley will permantantly supress your increased test production that you are going through (puberty) meaning that you wont get any more facial hair, your nuts wont completely develop, and your weiner wont get any bigger. and you are only 15 you should not even be on this website, for your sake please dont use test, go buy some creatine, ,protein and vitamins. Slide!

[JetBlack]

my bad i didnt see the 1 in frront of the test but those prohormones sometimes do work and can still fuck with your natural hormone levels. but still stick with creatine, ,glutamine, vitamins, protein, and shitloads of food. 1-test is a waste of money. Slide!

[Jack87]

Yeah I know it's a prohormone, but at 15 or 16 it's just plain fucking stupid.... Sorry if this one sounds like flaming, but It is probably meant to sound that way anyhow so screw it....

This board doesn't tolerate alot of other things, but it's funny how threads about kids wanting to boost their test level anyway they can never get taken down.... What a waste of space... But start talking religion, or some other shit and the thread disappears in a hot second...

Anyway there's my $.02 and a little more...

[Jack87]

I really need to put up some pics before I started lifting and then show the results of only 18 months training completely natural.... And this was before creatine, prohormone or anything... Only supplement around was weight gainers, amino acids and protein powders...

Seems now that all kids think the only way to get big is to use drugs or prohormone, which by the way are side effects in a can... because that's about all you'll get from them....

I gained over 50lbs of muscle in just 18 months when I started and I consider myself a hard gainer compared to some....

I gotta find the old pics and put them up here one day...

[young n experienced]

Originally posted by buff87
I really need to put up some pics before I started lifting and then show the results of only 18 months training completely natural.... And this was before creatine, prohormone or anything... Only supplement around was weight gainers, amino acids and protein powders...

Seems now that all kids think the only way to get big is to use drugs or prohormone, which by the way are side effects in a can... because that's about all you'll get from them....

I gained over 50lbs of muscle in just 18 months when I started and I consider myself a hard gainer compared to some....

I gotta find the old pics and put them up here one day...

actually, i am 195, and have been training for a while. I definitely know how to train properly.

[young n experienced]

Originally posted by MIKE_XXL
You are to young, PERIOD!!!!

havent heard that one before

[young n experienced]

Originally posted by icer2k
umm he said 1-test...thats a prohormone....who gives a shit if he wastes his money on that

i obviously know more that SOME of you..

[Jack87]

Originally posted by young n experienced


actually, i am 195, and have been training for a while. I definitely know how to train properly.

Bro if you 195lbs at 15 it sounds like you should be light years ahead of most guys your age... I would save the prohormone and anything more hardcore for much later...

That being said my own nephew didn't listen to a word i had to say and hopped on the juice at 18.... Yeah he blew up to 205lbs overnight but because he had no clue about anti-estrogen or anything else he now has bitch tits so bad you can see them thru his shirt....

Point is I don't think you need to use anything right now to boost your already high levels of natural testosterone ...

[young n experienced]

i picked the potent steroid 1-testosterone because of the close to zero estrogen conversion rate. This way there will be no stuntage of growth. The first cycle I am doing will be a two week cycle, so there is no inhibitory effect placed on my HPTA. the second will be an 8 week, and I will be taking anti-e's and legal LH enhancers post cycle.

[Jack87]

Originally posted by young n experienced
i picked the potent steroid 1-testosterone because of the close to zero estrogen conversion rate. This way there will be no stuntage of growth. The first cycle I am doing will be a two week cycle, so there is no inhibitory effect placed on my HPTA. the second will be an 8 week, and I will be taking anti-e's and legal LH enhancers post cycle.

Bro you are gonna do what you wanna do nomatter what anyone here tells you....

So I might as well give you at least some pointers.... Post cycle I doubt you'll need a LH enhancer with what you're doing, but my first and only choice would be Tribestan from bulgaria...

[young n experienced]

Originally posted by buff87


Bro if you 195lbs at 15 it sounds like you should be light years ahead of most guys your age... I would save the prohormone and anything more hardcore for much later...

yes , i am bigger than alot of people my age, and a better rugby player than most. but the point is that i can sit here and be like a better player, or i can juice and excel. if i do this, life will be my breadbasket. a payed college scholorship (which is possible now, but more than likely if i am one of the best out there)

[JetBlack]

there might be a close to zero estrogen conversion rate, but that does not mean it wot stunt your hormone level cus it will. on the sidee of the bottle it even says dont use if you are under 18 and it is not lying, ,bro it can fuck you up! Slide!

[young n experienced]

Originally posted by JetBlack
there might be a close to zero estrogen conversion rate, but that does not mean it wot stunt your hormone level cus it will. on the sidee of the bottle it even says dont use if you are under 18 and it is not lying, ,bro it can fuck you up! Slide!

i am going with a DMSO homebrew. it has a better delivery than anything out there right now, including avantlabs.com's

[young n experienced]

Originally posted by buff87



Bro you are gonna do what you wanna do nomatter what anyone here tells you....

So I might as well give you at least some pointers.... Post cycle I doubt you'll need a LH enhancer with what you're doing, but my first and only choice would be Tribestan from bulgaria...

are you saying that since estrogen levels will be so low from the cycle, they will have little effect on the hypotholamus, and anti-estrogens would therefore have little effect on raising LH post cycle? so i should rely on naturally getting it back?

[Jack87]

Originally posted by young n experienced


are you saying that since estrogen levels will be so low from the cycle, they will have little effect on the hypotholamus, and anti-estrogens would therefore have little effect on raising LH post cycle? so i should rely on naturally getting it back?

I doubt for what you're using anti-estrogens are needed.... A product that will stimulate LH production will help get your natural test production back up and running better then nothing at all.... For a legal alternative to clomid Tribestan is probably the best product on the market...

[young n experienced]

Originally posted by buff87


I doubt for what you're using anti-estrogens are needed.... A product that will stimulate LH production will help get your natural test production back up and running better then nothing at all.... For a legal alternative to clomid Tribestan is probably the best product on the market...

thanks for the advice bro. i pondered this before, and now that ive had this reaffirmed i think i will go without the anti-e

[young n experienced]

has anyone had success with fuzu?

[Buckyo7]

Guys no offense but whatever u say will NOT be able to change his mind ur talking tou a "young and EXPERIENCED" teen. this coming from an 18yr old who hasnt cycled yet teenagers just have a hard time listening and whatever or how much u try to convince them other wise u will not succeeed the only way that i got it out of my mind was that my parents said they would kick me out if i did AS. so now i learn as much as possible and become booksmart and offer advice when i can. But bro u dont understand i was in the same boat as u yes steriods make u big n strong but looking back at all the guys who took em their fresh/soph years in HS they are all pussied out at 5'6"-5'9" and for me who im glad i didnt take em i reached up at 6'2" at 220 with 12% BF with NO supplements.....personally i dont see how u can be "young and experienced" when guys here have been training for twice the time u have been living how long u been lifting a year? u just make me laugh! u know what go for it do roids and when ur dick cant get up while ur in college dont come back to us!

[Ex_banana-eater]

If you look back on yourself in the future, don't you think you would feel a bigger sense of accomplishment from waiting until at least twenty?

[young n experienced]

Originally posted by Buckyo7
so now i learn as much as possible and become booksmart and offer advice when i can. But bro u dont understand i was in the same boat as u yes steriods make u big n strong but looking back at all the guys who took em their fresh/soph years in HS they are all pussied out at 5'6"-5'9"

it is evident that you haven't been hitting the books too hard, since i've already mentioned that 1-test does not aromatise, therefore there will be no closure of ephysial growth plates. anyways, i am already 5'11".

[Warrior]

15!?! Holly Shit! Sorry Mods but forget flaming... he has posted a few times about this and refuses to give up. I say flame away on this guy! No one should help him with a cycle nor should condoning the use of steroids for a 15 year old boy be part of any community...

Gents, this is why steroids are illegal and why prohormones are on their way out the door too...

[Warrior]

If you were my kid... errrrrr... I would be getting a call from the social services in the morning...

[young n experienced]

Originally posted by Warrior
If you were my kid... errrrrr... I would be getting a call from the social services in the morning...

i resemble a man more than a kid.

[Buckyo7]

Originally posted by young n experienced


it is evident that you haven't been hitting the books too hard, since i've already mentioned that 1-test does not aromatise, therefore there will be no closure of ephysial growth plates. anyways, i am already 5'11".

ALREADY 5'11" WOAH! holy shit! uknow what i could still kick ur ass after a cycle and tell u the truth iwould love to! LIKE I SAID GUYS KIDS DONT LISTEN....i think they should acctually put like a credit card verification on here to not let anyone under 18 in just my .02 cents i think it would help out alot by having kiddies come in here and trying to be tonka tuff shits by saying they know everything...personally i dont know a whole lot about AS i more so know about cutting cycles (DNP , Clen , UA, T3, ect) i believe that real knowledge comes from personal experience not reference and for someone thats 15 telling someone thats 40 that it wont hurt him i say let him do it! let him '"learn" a lesson or two! man i am NEVER having kids i really feel sorry for u guys who do!

[Buckyo7]

Originally posted by young n experienced
i resemble a man more than a kid.

Dude go through puberty and loose ur virginity....then come talk to us about being a man!

[nj_]

Originally posted by icer2k
umm he said 1-test...thats a prohormone....who gives a shit if he wastes his money on that

1-test is more of a pro-steroid IMO since its so much more effective than the other pro-hormones out there. Regardless, you shouldn't be using any of this stuff at 15. Don't say we didn't warn you when you regret this decision down the road.

[young n experienced]

i have sat and thought about this, and the benefits seem to outweigh the risks. getting a university scholorship and having it all payed for will do wonders for me down the road. i wont have to waste three years of my life or more paying off student bills. i can invest that money into a house. i can have fun, be successful.

[sonic]

Please save your money until you're at least 18. You're only 15. That's like feeding an infant protein powder and andro. Get my drift.

[Warrior]

Originally posted by sonic
Please save your money until you're at least 18. You're only 15. That's like feeding an infant protein powder and andro. Get my drift.

I had my daughter on the Whey protein from the start! I checked the ingredient lists of some of the formulas and choose the ones containing whey vs soy

But no andro!

But anyway - you can build an awesome physique from an advanced knowledge of training and nutrition with out the juice for many years. Even 18 is too early in my book...

If you can't do that then leave the scholarship money for the students that are willing to put toward the effort in their training and learning...

[young n experienced]

Originally posted by Warrior



If you can't do that then leave the scholarship money for the students that are willing to put toward the effort in their training and learning...

actually more and more of the best are using roids now. its becoming to be a handicap if you DONT use them in college, and the roid users stick out from the crowd in the High School circuit.

[young n experienced]

also, are you trying to insinuate that i dont put an effort into training and learning? My hobby is learning about training and bodybuilding. I am in high school, yet I am about to start a night course at the college on nutrition. peace