What to cycle after 1 gram of tren?

[graeme87]

My last two cycle have been 1gram a week of Tren E with a HRT dose of test. I threw in dbol at the start this time as well.

I’d like to run something else other than tren in my next cycle but my concern is that I will not make good gains if I switch to a weaker compound like test.

Can I go back to using other compounds and still make good gains?

[PT]

1000mgs of test and 800mgs of deca. if your doing a gram of tren a week you can handle that and it will definatly make you grow if your diet is in check

[dece870717]

My last two cycle have been 1gram a week of Tren E with a HRT dose of test. I threw in dbol at the start this time as well.

I’d like to run something else other than tren in my next cycle but my concern is that I will not make good gains if I switch to a weaker compound like test.

Can I go back to using other compounds and still make good gains?

Why do you want to switch over to something else? Why not use the best i.e Tren all the time? Thats what I've personally done.

[NATE0406]

deca would do nicely. but imho i would just continue with tren. tren is the nectur of the gods bro.

[HORSE~]

Test, a 19nor and a dht ran together can be made into one of the best cycles around....

If you can give us your stats and what other cycles have you ran in the past it would greatly help us to point you in the right direction with this one.....

[HORSE~]

Slin, hgh are a few other things that could be added but once again I am hesitant to suggest anything without a little more back ground....

[graeme87]

Thanks for the quick response guys.

To those of you who are asking why I want to change from tren. I just want to try something different (although the old saying “if it’s not broke don’t fix it” is making me think just stick with the tren. Second reason is I can’t always get the caber need to control the progestrogen so I’d like to try and move away from 19nor at least for my next cycle.

In terms of experience I’ve lost count of my cycles. I’m experience with most products at fairly high doses.

I used to go from complex cycles mixing test, tren, masterone with a dbol kick start and anavar finish but I decided to switch to a more basic cycle with just a high dose of tren and that provides equal gains imo.

I’ve ran HGH up at 20iu per day although I stay away from that now simply because I find hgh a waste of money in comparison to roids.

PCT isn’t a concern as I am on HRT for life (250mg a sus every 3 weeks, I know it’s low)

Ideally what I’m looking for is a cycle equal to 1 gram of tren but without a 19nor.

Any input is much appreciated.

[graeme87]

Why do you want to switch over to something else? Why not use the best i.e Tren all the time? Thats what I've personally done.

I may well go down that road but I want to see what the more experience guys have to say first.

How many consecutive cycles have you ran tren? And how have your dosages changed?

[Maldorf]

I dont know how you were able to run 1g tren e/week for a cycle. Most people would feel so sick from the sides that they would have to stop after 2 weeks. as little as 250mg/wk produces good results. I dont understand this mentality of more is better.

[duggadoo]

im just curious what are your stats?

[SuperLift]

im just curious what are your stats?

same!

[HORSE~]

^^Me to I asked in post # 5, still waiting....

[MercyDog]

more than likely the brew comes in at around 700/w

[BUYLONGTERM]

I dont know how you were able to run 1g tren e/week for a cycle. Most people would feel so sick from the sides that they would have to stop after 2 weeks. as little as 250mg/wk produces good results. I dont understand this mentality of more is better.

I'd like to know as well! I tried running 100mg ED of Tren, and it was impossible! that to me seems way to high of a dose!!!! WOW!

[PT]

i never went over 700mgs a week or 100mgs a day and with that dose i used to wake up in a puddle of sweat.

[HORSE~]

I can run tren A at 500 mg's per week and be sucking egg's and feel like shit but with tren E I can run it at over a gram and function just fine and grow like a mofo....

Not sure why the difference between the two but I know couple of other guys that respond the same way to the two....

As a matter fact Nark was the one that turned me on to the tren e....If my memory serves me correctly he was on tren a at 400 mg's per week and had to go on breathing treatments and could barely function....Then he ran tren e and was able to run it at over a gram and blew up with no respiratory problems at all....

[graeme87]

Sorry guys in terms of stats I thought you were looking for my cycle history.

I’m 5,10 265lbs around 12% body fat.

[Narkissos]

I can run tren A at 500 mg's per week and be sucking egg's and feel like shit but with tren E I can run it at over a gram and function just fine and grow like a mofo....

Not sure why the difference between the two but I know couple of other guys that respond the same way to the two....

As a matter fact Nark was the one that turned me on to the tren e....If my memory serves me correctly he was on tren a at 400 mg's per week and had to go on breathing treatments and could barely function....Then he ran tren e and was able to run it at over a gram and blew up with no respiratory problems at all....

Yep.

-CNS

[BUYLONGTERM]

Very strange? I wonder why Tren E is different? I never use Tren E only because If I get sick of Tren, I want it out of my system a lot faster.....

[rodge]

Very strange? I wonder why Tren E is different? I never use Tren E only because If I get sick of Tren, I want it out of my system a lot faster.....

thats the worst part when using tren-e... if sides get too hard too handle it takes such a damn long time to clear. never noticed any difference other then clearing time between tren-e or tren-a both give the same sides(and results) wich for me the lack of sleep is killer nr.1... thank god i finally found a solution for that... now tren can be part of all my cycles.

-rodge

[HORSE~]

thats the worst part when using tren-e... if sides get too hard too handle it takes such a damn long time to clear. never noticed any difference other then clearing time between tren-e or tren-a both give the same sides(and results) wich for me the lack of sleep is killer nr.1... thank god i finally found a solution for that... now tren can be part of all my cycles.

-rodge

Rodge if you dont mind me asking what was the solution for your sleep issues ??

[redz]

Rodge if you dont mind me asking what was the solution for your sleep issues ??

My guess is medical :P although I heard it can be used to treat insomnia.

[legobricks]

Edit your post redz, no rec drug talk.

Rodge havent seen you around postin in a while! Good to see ya back!

And as far as the questions goes, there are def. different ways to cycle, not just different stacks.

For instance, a great way to shock your body and make some good gains is something that i believe pinnacle wrote up...carb cycle for 6-8weeks and when u feel your ready you can hit a blast cycle (ie 4 weeks of a high test dosage) By doing this as well as starting on the last day of your carb cycle which should be a high carb day will saturate your receptors and muscles with high levels of androgens and nutrients. The plus side is its only 4 weeks long which makes recover fast. Remember high doses differ from your experience. There is an article about it somewhere here, ill try to dig it up.

[BUYLONGTERM]

thats the worst part when using tren-e... if sides get too hard too handle it takes such a damn long time to clear. never noticed any difference other then clearing time between tren-e or tren-a both give the same sides(and results) wich for me the lack of sleep is killer nr.1... thank god i finally found a solution for that... now tren can be part of all my cycles.

-rodge

Lack of sleep is the worst side effect I get from Tren! What was the solution?

Good to see you posting bro!!!


BLT

[graeme87]

I’d like to try the short blast cycle method actually.

I’m just not sure on the dosage. Pinn spoke about using long esters which would not normally kick in till week 5-6 but if you use them at a super high dose they kick in fast, sort of like a super front load except the high dose in ran though the entire 6 week cycle.

Maybe try something like 500mg of Test E every other day so that is 1750mg a week.
I could throw in some dbol too.

What do you guys think? Just under 2 grams of test seems high too me but I think that is the idea of these short cycles.

Any one have experience with short cycle? I’d like to hear what dosages you used.

[legobricks]

I’d like to try the short blast cycle method actually.

I’m just not sure on the dosage. Pinn spoke about using long esters which would not normally kick in till week 5-6 but if you use them at a super high dose they kick in fast, sort of like a super front load except the high dose in ran though the entire 6 week cycle.

Maybe try something like 500mg of Test E every other day so that is 1750mg a week.
I could throw in some dbol too.

What do you guys think? Just under 2 grams of test seems high too me but I think that is the idea of these short cycles.

Any one have experience with short cycle? I’d like to hear what dosages you used.

Well from going thru it a while back, he leaned more towards the use of short esters as it is in your system faster and the recovery time is also faster which also means gains came faster. Long esters can work as essentially your doing a SUPER frontload the entire time BUT short esters is the whole point behind this type of cycling for 4 weeks. He didnt give dosages as it was varied with person to person but he did mention that 4-5g have been used. That is a hell of a lot of test but this does work. The key behind making it work tho is that the carb cycling is done RIGHT which would lead to AWESOME gains. PLUS you say your at 12% BF right now, by carb cycling before a blast cycle you can drop some BF% and during the cycle gain LEAN gains which would put you further ahead of the game.

[graeme87]

I will definitely have a look into a short heavy cycle.

I’ve got some PGCL I want to use next month so this could be a good time to drop some body fat and then jump on a short heavy cycle immediately afterwards.

[Ashop]

My last two cycle have been 1gram a week of Tren E with a HRT dose of test. I threw in dbol at the start this time as well.

I’d like to run something else other than tren in my next cycle but my concern is that I will not make good gains if I switch to a weaker compound like test.

Can I go back to using other compounds and still make good gains?

you could try DECA or EQ in substitute the TREN and make fine gains

[Mbuffguy]

1000mgs of test and 800mgs of deca. if your doing a gram of tren a week you can handle that and it will definatly make you grow if your diet is in check

your a beast peitro

[legobricks]

you could try DECA or EQ in substitute the TREN and make fine gains

WHAT? EQ, u serious!?!