What do you guys think?

**MercyDog** · 07-13-2008, 05:08 PM

If you shut your natural production down for good what are the dissadvantages of lifelong HRT? and is it simple to get help from a doctor? monthly costs? Will they try and bring you down when you get older? Lifelong titty treatments or just bettween the big cycles?

Does anyone here actually know in any form of rough estimate what it actually takes to shut down permenantly?????????

**inky-e** · 07-13-2008, 05:26 PM

I'm no expert in this area but if they put you on HRT I highly doubt they will give you huge doses . I mean no big cycles or anything like that. I'm just gonna BUMP!

**JiGGaMaN** · 07-13-2008, 05:29 PM

The disadvantage of HRT is that you will be on something for the rest of your life. Advantage would be you can run cycles with relative impunity due to no HPTA concerns. Also, some forms of malignant cell division are accelerated by test. Essentially, you muscles grow faster but so do cancer cells.

**Bigmax** · 07-13-2008, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

The disadvantage of HRT is that you will be on something for the rest of your life. Advantage would be you can run cycles with relative impunity due to no HPTA concerns. Also, some forms of malignant cell division are accelerated by test. Essentially, you muscles grow faster but so do cancer cells.

Please show us some research on your statement as far as cancer and steroids ...Ive read where HGH can speed up certain genes and wake dormant cells but nothing on anabolic compounds.

PT · 07-13-2008, 05:38 PM

i assume he had to of been thinking about hgh not steroids

**JiGGaMaN** · 07-13-2008, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Please show us some research on your statement as far as cancer and steroids...Ive read where HGH can speed up certain genes and wake dormant cells but nothing on anabolic compounds.

Ok, im on it!

**JiGGaMaN** · 07-13-2008, 06:13 PM

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/co...Therapy_36.asp
http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/.../msg00067.html
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1831539
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0510012315.htm
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag97/june-update97.html

Also, increases odds of developing enlarged heart which increases risk of heart attack.
Chronic ingestion of high doses of anabolic
steroids can cause elevations in blood pressure, left
ventricular hypertrophy and premature coronary artery
disease (McKillop et al., 1986; Bowman, 1990; McNutt
et al., 1988).
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:...nk&cd=23&gl=ca

Sorry i dont have the time to do a more thorough and better job.

**MercyDog** · 07-13-2008, 06:45 PM

I'm not as concerned with the sides as much as the risks I'm currently taking and the what if factors. Although I will read that post. I know their not going to give you huge doses,,,,thats a side job for extracuricular activities. Seems like even a lifelong 100mg/w would be better than the norm. The problem is there a chance that a typical dose won't respond due to being burnt out? Or is take just muscle building and intakes? Do the retired bigboys deal with this or do you think thier recovered?

**MercyDog** · 07-13-2008, 06:50 PM

Jigga, that sounds like when you have cancer it accelerates it, but doesn't cause it. However your post never said it causes cancer anyway. I have to agree with them though about the cell division. For years its been thought that castration increases life expectancy.

correction just read the fourth link