Deca , sust, enanth ?

[rokipoki]

My cycle looks like this
week 1-6 : Deca ( 400mg / week ) Test E ( 500mg / week )
week 6-11: Deca ( 400mg / week ) Sustanon 250 ( 500mg / week )

Now my question is, if it is right to end Deca 2 weeks before the sustanon, or should i take it all from week 1-11 ( curently in week 8 ) , and therefore stop taking deca in week 9 , and take sustanon only for weeks 10 and 11 ?

Tnx,
R.

[NATE0406]

yes stop the deca two weeks before the sust.

[PT]

i would stop the deca in week 10 and sust in week 12

[rokipoki]

alright tnx, will do that
week 10 end deca
week 12 end sust
Then start pct 10 days after last sust shot.

For pct Clomid and hcg will be used .

[PT]

clomid and hcg will work but i perfer nolva. do you know how to properly run the hcg bro? if not just ask and i'll show you how i run it

[PT]

if i were you i would also get some aromasin or armidex to run with your clomid. i would start the hcg 1 week before pct and run it for 2 weeks. that will give you 2 weeks without it and you'll only be running the clomid and armidex/aromasin during that time. the 1st week i would take a shot of 500ius on sunday then again of wednesday. the second week i would run 500ius eod then stop. after that run your clomid and armidex/aromasin for 2 more weeks

[rokipoki]

if i were you i would also get some aromasin or armidex to run with your clomid. i would start the hcg 1 week before pct and run it for 2 weeks. that will give you 2 weeks without it and you'll only be running the clomid and armidex/aromasin during that time. the 1st week i would take a shot of 500ius on sunday then again of wednesday. the second week i would run 500ius eod then stop. after that run your clomid and armidex/aromasin for 2 more weeks

pietro75, u have a pm from me

[Dukkit]

My cycle looks like this
week 1-6 : Deca ( 400mg / week ) Test E ( 500mg / week )
week 6-11: Deca ( 400mg / week ) Sustanon 250 ( 500mg / week )

Now my question is, if it is right to end Deca 2 weeks before the sustanon, or should i take it all from week 1-11 ( curently in week 8 ) , and therefore stop taking deca in week 9 , and take sustanon only for weeks 10 and 11 ?

Tnx,
R.

some questions... why are you switching from the Test E to sust? the Test E will only be fully active at about week 5. So your only getting one good week from it if you run it at 6 weeks. Then the sust will take a bit of time to kick in. The prop in the sust will kick in asap but its not a high dose of prop. so really your wasting gear. your levels wont be steady, your gains will be less then if you ran it at a steady dose at one compound choice.

Also.. Deca takes along time to full kick in also. roughly 6-8 weeks for full affects. So your not gettin the most out of that compound either.

i would stick to one test. and run the deca for 12 weeks and the test for 14. but thats just me.

[rokipoki]

I have 2 options for my pct , haven't decided on which one to do yet.

Option 1 :

This is how a buddy of mine said i should do it :
i have 3 vials of hcg ( 5000 iu each ) and three bottles of the diluent (1ml ) .
Now i will take my first shot of hcg on the 10th day off of the cycle( 10 days after it is finished) , that is when i will take 5000 iu's, and that is also when i will be starting with clomid ( 1 pill in the morning, 50mg/tab )
I will be taking that for 12 days( one plate, 12 pills ) than will take the rest of my clomid for 6 more days, two pills per day, one pill in the morning, one in the evening.
during the clomid my hcg will be like this : 10 days after the first shot of hcg ( 5000 iu ) i will take my second shot , again 5000iu and than 10 days after this i will take ther third shot ( again 5000 iu ) . That is when my pct will end.
Also what u guys said about taking hcg eod , i think that that is not possible for me, because i have my hcg packed in vials, where i brake the tops off and have to mix everything right away ( because of sterility ) or is there a trick into this ?

And

Option #2 :

10 days after the end of the cycle :

Day 1-20- 100mg Clomid/day + 20mg Nolva/day
Day 1 : 5000iu of HCG
Day 10 : 5000 iu of HCG
Day 20 : 5000 iu of HCG
End of Pct

So what do u guys think, which PCT should i select?

Tnx for the help,
R.

[PT]

if i were you i would run the sust first then switch to the enth. the sust has 90mgs of fast acting esters so it should kick in alot faster then the enth

[PT]

I have 2 options for my pct , haven't decided on which one to do yet.

Option 1 :

This is how a buddy of mine said i should do it :
i have 3 vials of hcg ( 5000 iu each ) and three bottles of the diluent (1ml ) .
Now i will take my first shot of hcg on the 10th day off of the cycle( 10 days after it is finished) , that is when i will take 5000 iu's, and that is also when i will be starting with clomid ( 1 pill in the morning, 50mg/tab )
I will be taking that for 12 days( one plate, 12 pills ) than will take the rest of my clomid for 6 more days, two pills per day, one pill in the morning, one in the evening.
during the clomid my hcg will be like this : 10 days after the first shot of hcg ( 5000 iu ) i will take my second shot , again 5000iu and than 10 days after this i will take ther third shot ( again 5000 iu ) . That is when my pct will end.
Also what u guys said about taking hcg eod , i think that that is not possible for me, because i have my hcg packed in vials, where i brake the tops off and have to mix everything right away ( because of sterility ) or is there a trick into this ?

And

Option #2 :

10 days after the end of the cycle :

Day 1-20- 100mg Clomid/day + 20mg Nolva/day
Day 1 : 5000iu of HCG
Day 10 : 5000 iu of HCG
Day 20 : 5000 iu of HCG
End of Pct

So what do u guys think, which PCT should i select?

Tnx for the help,
R.

if you want to run the hcg then run 500ius eod for the last 2 weeks of your cycle then start you clomid or nolva which are both SERM'S alomg with an AI such as armidex or aromasin

[rokipoki]

yes, but as i said in the PM to you pietro, i have vials of hcg that need to be used imediatly, because of sterillity, also which pct do you recomend, pct #1 or pct #2 ?
Also where i live, it is not possible for me to get any aromasin or armidex, so i will have to do without that.

[PT]

i would switch it up and start the hcg the day after your cycle if you want to go that road instead of waiting the 10 days like you will with the clomid/nolva. if you run hcg until the end of pct your body wont be producing test when you stop the hcg. the hcg gives you a huge kick in test levels but clomid/nolva is needed at the conclusion of hcg to make your body produce its owb test.

[rokipoki]

ohhhh, now i understand that about hcg.Sory, i did not understand it in that way.
My budy sucks for giving me the wrong info.
So how is about if i skip hcg all through and just do clomid/ nolva like this :

day 1-20 - Clomid 100mg/day + Nolva 20mg / day

Would that be a good enough pct for me, to keep most of the gains, and not get any bad sides after i'm off ?
Also i will try to get arimidex, but that is not for sure yet, so for now would that pct do ?

[PT]

yea that will work bro but like i said if you run the hcg the last 2 weeks of your cycle it will really help.

[rokipoki]

oh, and can you tell me why the hcg will help if i run it the last 2 weeks of cycle ? And also , this is how my hcg vials look like.


1 vial contains 5000 iu's of hcg. So how can i get 500 iu's out of these vials, are there any containers that i can buy at a local drug store, or something like that ? And if so, how are they called?
Tnx,
R.

[rokipoki]

Stop spaming my thread !

[rokipoki]

what's your problem guy ? what does anavar have to do with any of my questions ?
If it is in any way related to any of the questions i had than i apologize , but if it is not, u need to go somewhere else!

[rokipoki]

ok, but i actualy have my cycle decided, all i'm deciding on is the PCT now. so if someone would answer my hcg question, i would really appreciate it.
Also this guy i know just claimed to me that this is the same :

Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrat, 10mg/tab, 30 tabs, Nihfi) as armidex or aromasin
is that true or is he just a guy that doesn't know what he is talking about?

[rokipoki]

* bump for an answer *

[fdrx7man]

deca for 12 weeks and test e for 14 weeks is how id run that stuff..

[Ashop]

My cycle looks like this
week 1-6 : Deca ( 400mg / week ) Test E ( 500mg / week )
week 6-11: Deca ( 400mg / week ) Sustanon 250 ( 500mg / week )

Now my question is, if it is right to end Deca 2 weeks before the sustanon, or should i take it all from week 1-11 ( curently in week 8 ) , and therefore stop taking deca in week 9 , and take sustanon only for weeks 10 and 11 ?

Tnx,
R.

you can do it either way,,,most stop the DECA 1st

[rokipoki]

oh, and can you tell me why the hcg will help if i run it the last 2 weeks of cycle ? And also , this is how my hcg vials look like.


1 vial contains 5000 iu's of hcg. So how can i get 500 iu's out of these vials, are there any containers that i can buy at a local drug store, or something like that ? And if so, how are they called?
Tnx,
R.

I'm sory guys, i actualy had all of those answers figured out, all i wanted to know now is the HCG question. Tnx for all the nice answers though.
So anyone knows how i should mix hcg ?

[rokipoki]

Cummon guys, anybody ? please, i really need to figure this out ?

[BloodyBillAnderson]

you can buy vials at
http://www.researchsupply.net
just shoot the unused hcg into the vial and put in the fridge.

[rokipoki]

ok, but i actualy am from europe so anyplace around europe that u can buy these kind of vials ?
Tnx,
R.